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Comp Picks Announced - None for Bengals - ochocincos - 03-10-2021

Probably not to anyone's surprise, the Bengals are not receiving any comp picks for the 2021 draft.
See Adam Schefter's tweet for all of the Comp Picks.



RE: Comp Picks Announced - None for Bengals - bfine32 - 03-10-2021

I swear the NFL and New England are in cahoots. They seem to get a 3rd rounder every year. I suppose losing the QB that won the Superbowl is something, but they did sign a starting NFL QB as his replacement

RE: Comp Picks Announced - None for Bengals - ochocincos - 03-10-2021

(03-10-2021, 04:47 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I swear the NFL and New England are in cahoots. They seem to get a 3rd rounder every year. I suppose losing the QB that won the Superbowl is something, but they did sign a starting NFL QB as his replacement

Cam Newton signed back in July, and it was only for ~$3.7 mill.
That was outside the window considered for a FA to be factored into comp picks.

RE: Comp Picks Announced - None for Bengals - TheLeonardLeap - 03-10-2021

(03-10-2021, 04:47 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I swear the NFL and New England are in cahoots. They seem to get a 3rd rounder every year. I suppose losing the QB that won the Superbowl is something, but they did sign a starting NFL QB as his replacement

Brady signed 2yr/$50m
Newton signed 1yr/$1.75m

Pretty positive contract size matters for comp picks. Also... they lost Jamie Collins who got a 3yr/$30m deal with the Lions, Kyle Van Noy who got a 4yr/$51m deal with the Dolphins (plus some other guys on minor contracts).

Patriots keep getting a 3rd rounder because they keep letting players leave in FA. They will probably have a 3rd rounder next year too because of Thuney (they traded for his replacement, so it doesn't count against getting a comp pick).

RE: Comp Picks Announced - None for Bengals - NATI BENGALS - 03-10-2021

When Whit left we only got like a 6th or 7th because of some bullshit rule about 10 year guys don’t get max comp picks. So how do they get one for Brady?

RE: Comp Picks Announced - None for Bengals - HarleyDog - 03-10-2021

But MB loves comp picks. How can this be?

RE: Comp Picks Announced - None for Bengals - Destro - 03-10-2021

(03-10-2021, 08:20 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: But MB loves comp picks. How can this be?

But do comp picks love MB?

RE: Comp Picks Announced - None for Bengals - bfine32 - 03-10-2021

They said on Sirius that the Jags haven't had a comp pick in 11 years; while the top 4 are:

Pats
Ravens
Packers
Cowboys

RE: Comp Picks Announced - None for Bengals - t3r3e3 - 03-10-2021

(03-10-2021, 09:33 PM)Destro Wrote: But do comp picks love MB?

They’ve had more misses than hits with them.

RE: Comp Picks Announced - None for Bengals - SunsetBengal - 03-10-2021

No comp picks for the Bengals? Meh, big deal.. It's not like all of the ones they have had in the past decade have panned out into anything fantastic.

RE: Comp Picks Announced - None for Bengals - TheLeonardLeap - 03-10-2021

(03-10-2021, 10:03 PM)t3r3e3 Wrote: They’ve had more misses than hits with them.

I actually don't think they have ever truly hit on them. 

I remember doing a big writeup on all the comp picks they have ever had (might try to find it later), I am pretty sure Landon Johnson in 2004 is far and away the best they've ever had, he was only okay, and the second best wasn't even close.

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EDIT: Found it, it's from 2017.

http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Bengals-Marvin-and-Comp-Picks?highlight=comp+picks
2003, 7th, DE Elton Patterson
2004, 3rd, LB Landon Johnson
2007, 7th, S Chinedum Ndukwe
2008, 3rd, WR Andre Caldwell
2008, 6th, TE Matt Sherry
2008, 7th, DE Angelo Craig
2008, 7th, WR Mario Urrutia
2009, 3rd, TE Chase Coffman
2009, 6th, RB Bernard Scott
2009, 7th, DE Clinton McDonald
2009, 7th, WR Freddie Brown
2010, 3rd, CB Brandon Ghee
2010, 4th, LB Roddrick Muckleroy
2011, 7th, RB Jay Finley
2013, 7th, OT Reid Fragel
2013, 7th, C TJ Johnson
2014, 6th, LB Marquis Flowers
2014, 7th, CB Lavelle Westbrooks
2015, 3rd, LB Paul Dawson
2015, 4th, DE Marcus Hardison


Since then, the Bengals also got...
2017, 4th, DT Ryan Glasgow
2017, 5th, C JJ Dielman
2017, 7th, TE Mason Schreck
2018, 5th, CB Darius Phillips
2018, 7th, OG Rod Taylor
2018, 7th, WR Auden Tate
2019, 4th, OG Michael Jordan
2019, 6th, LB Deshaun Davis
2019, 6th, RB Rodney Anderson

Darius Phillips could be good, has promise, but still not a good list at all.

RE: Comp Picks Announced - None for Bengals - J24 - 03-10-2021

(03-10-2021, 10:14 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: No comp picks for the Bengals?  Meh, big deal..  It's not like all of the ones they have had in the past decade have panned out into anything fantastic.
That's the spirit. 

RE: Comp Picks Announced - None for Bengals - J24 - 03-10-2021

(03-10-2021, 10:16 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: I actually don't think they have ever truly hit on them. 

I remember doing a big writeup on all the comp picks they have ever had (might try to find it later), I am pretty sure Landon Johnson in 2004 is far and away the best they've ever had, he was only okay, and the second best wasn't even close.

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EDIT: Found it, it's from 2017.

http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Bengals-Marvin-and-Comp-Picks?highlight=comp+picks
2003, 7th, DE Elton Patterson
2004, 3rd, LB Landon Johnson
2007, 7th, S Chinedum Ndukwe
2008, 3rd, WR Andre Caldwell
2008, 6th, TE Matt Sherry
2008, 7th, DE Angelo Craig
2008, 7th, WR Mario Urrutia
2009, 3rd, TE Chase Coffman
2009, 6th, RB Bernard Scott
2009, 7th, DE Clinton McDonald
2009, 7th, WR Freddie Brown
2010, 3rd, CB Brandon Ghee
2010, 4th, LB Roddrick Muckleroy
2011, 7th, RB Jay Finley
2013, 7th, OT Reid Fragel
2013, 7th, C TJ Johnson
2014, 6th, LB Marquis Flowers
2014, 7th, CB Lavelle Westbrooks
2015, 3rd, LB Paul Dawson
2015, 4th, DE Marcus Hardison


Since then, the Bengals also got...
2017, 4th, DT Ryan Glasgow
2017, 5th, C JJ Dielman
2017, 7th, TE Mason Schreck
2018, 5th, CB Darius Phillips
2018, 7th, OG Rod Taylor
2018, 7th, WR Auden Tate
2019, 4th, OG Michael Jordan
2019, 6th, LB Deshaun Davis
2019, 6th, RB Rodney Anderson

Darius Phillips could be good, has promise, but still not a good list at all.
There were some pretty good players on the first list Nduwke, Landon Johnson, Scott, Mcdonald was a key contributor on a the Seahawks championship team. Also Tate, Phillips, and Glasgow before he got hurt were quality players for us.

Anyway just because the execution has been poor doesn't mean its a bad plan.

RE: Comp Picks Announced - None for Bengals - Benton - 03-10-2021

(03-10-2021, 08:15 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: When Whit left we only got like a 6th or 7th because of some bullshit rule about 10 year guys don’t get max comp picks. So how do they get one for Brady?

Because he won the Super Bowls? Like, all the Super Bowls?

RE: Comp Picks Announced - None for Bengals - NATI BENGALS - 03-10-2021

(03-10-2021, 11:03 PM)Benton Wrote: Because he won the Super Bowls? Like, all the Super Bowls?

Sounds like a scam. One last cheating session for Brady and the pats together

RE: Comp Picks Announced - None for Bengals - TheLeonardLeap - 03-10-2021

(03-10-2021, 08:15 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: When Whit left we only got like a 6th or 7th because of some bullshit rule about 10 year guys don’t get max comp picks. So how do they get one for Brady?

Pretty sure the 3rd isn't because of Brady. 

Kyle Van Noy only had 6 years in the NFL and got 4yr/$51m

Which is funny because he got cut just after 1 year, but it still counted.

RE: Comp Picks Announced - None for Bengals - CJD - 03-11-2021

I think not having comp picks should generally be a goal of every franchise because it means that over the previous year you added more value than you lost in free agency, at least in terms of dollars. There obviously isn't a direct causal relationship between money spent and production gained, but you'd hope there is at least a correlation.

RE: Comp Picks Announced - None for Bengals - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 03-11-2021

(03-10-2021, 10:14 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: No comp picks for the Bengals?  Meh, big deal..  It's not like all of the ones they have had in the past decade have panned out into anything fantastic.

Thought the exact same thing, meh.

RE: Comp Picks Announced - None for Bengals - ochocincos - 03-11-2021

(03-10-2021, 10:43 PM)J24 Wrote: There were some pretty good players on the first list Nduwke, Landon Johnson, Scott, Mcdonald was a key contributor on a the Seahawks championship team. Also Tate, Phillips, and Glasgow before he got hurt were quality players for us.

Anyway just because the execution has been poor doesn't mean its a bad plan.

It's never bad to have the extra picks, but there's a reason the earliest comp pick doesn't come until after the 3rd round. The league doesn't want to encourage teams to forgo Free Agency just to get a bunch of great draft picks.
If you asked me whether I'd prefer to have comp picks or sign FAs, I'd choose the latter every time.

RE: Comp Picks Announced - None for Bengals - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 03-11-2021

(03-11-2021, 05:56 PM)ochocincos Wrote: It's never bad to have the extra picks, but there's a reason the earliest comp pick doesn't come until after the 3rd round.
If you asked me whether I'd prefer to have comp picks or sign FAs, I'd choose the latter every time.

For damn sure always take the proven player. If anything all our comp picks have done is prove they are even more of a 
crapshoot than regular picks. That is, except for like a couple players. I DO like Darius Phillips.