(03-15-2021, 05:47 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: would anyone waste all that money to watch a team in complete disarray?

I was a season ticket holder, I lived through some good years with Dalton, Green, Gio and Dunlap.

Then things soured when our FO failed to go all in and try and win it all. They sat on their hands, made bad draft decisions and now we stink.

I know it is early in FA, but when you already hear a great OG gets low balled and then goes to KC, you realize this FO does not either want to win as bad as fans want to win, or they are just morons or a combination of both.

PR is not going to help, lip service is not going to help. I feel bad for Joe Burrow, I really do because it was drafted by the worst family run NFL franchise in history.

So for those loyal fans who toss away cash, I applaud your enthusiasm and optimism. I used to be just like you.

(03-15-2021, 05:47 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: would anyone waste all that money to watch a team in complete disarray?

I was a season ticket holder, I lived through some good years with Dalton, Green, Gio and Dunlap.

Then things soured when our FO failed to go all in and try and win it all. They sat on their hands, made bad draft decisions and now we stink.

I know it is early in FA, but when you already hear a great OG gets low balled and then goes to KC, you realize this FO does not either want to win as bad as fans want to win, or they are just morons or a combination of both.

PR is not going to help, lip service is not going to help. I feel bad for Joe Burrow, I really do because it was drafted by the worst family run NFL franchise in history.

So for those loyal fans who toss away cash, I applaud your enthusiasm and optimism. I used to be just like you.

(03-15-2021, 05:50 PM)ochocincos Wrote: The Bengals are in a difficult situation.
They have to overpay for quality outside FAs to come to the team since it's a rebuilding team and not as popular of a city compared to most other NFL cities.
For the Bengals to really get back to their winning ways, they NEED to draft well and develop their talent properly.
If you build it, they will come.

(03-15-2021, 05:50 PM)ochocincos Wrote: The Bengals are in a difficult situation.
They have to overpay for quality outside FAs to come to the team since it's a rebuilding team and not as popular of a city compared to most other NFL cities.
For the Bengals to really get back to their winning ways, they NEED to draft well and develop their talent properly.
If you build it, they will come.

(03-15-2021, 05:51 PM)PDub80 Wrote: Where was it reported Thuney was lowballed? Interested to read this!

(03-15-2021, 05:54 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: Your right. They will make moves in FA but it will be sensible moves at reasonable dollars (although the absurd contracts for wannabe's last year makes my point sound ridiculous). There are good, solid contributors out there we can use that don't break the bank.

(03-15-2021, 05:57 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: In another thread (sorry not sure which one), a fan shared a text message he had with Thuney's sister who he knows. His sister said they low balled him.

(03-15-2021, 05:56 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: No doubt, but they looking at worst ticket sales (other than 2020) in their history in my opinion. We live in a reward me now world, who has 3 to 5 years to wait to see the team make and win a playoff game, a Super Bowl likely never happens ever.

(03-15-2021, 06:00 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Solid contributors won't get the team where they need to be. It may help them get an extra win or two though.
They have to get the better FAs and/or draft and develop better if they are to get where we want them to be.

(03-15-2021, 06:19 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: Again, you're correct. I think I've reasoned with the fact about MB saying "the perfect team was an 8-8 team because it brought fans in the stands but saved money." Said this back on 700WLW probably 20yrs ago. I root for them having a cinderella chance every year, but I know better. Honestly, I just wanna see a Cincinnati SB trophy before I die. I hope I live another 50yrs but even then, that old bastard will probably still outlive me.

(03-15-2021, 05:50 PM)ochocincos Wrote: The Bengals are in a difficult situation.
They have to overpay for quality outside FAs to come to the team since it's a rebuilding team and not as popular of a city compared to most other NFL cities.
For the Bengals to really get back to their winning ways, they NEED to draft well and develop their talent properly.
If you build it, they will come.

(03-15-2021, 06:22 PM)Hammerstripes Wrote: Except no team hits on draft picks at the rate it takes to keep a team competitive.  The roster turns over too fast.  A great draft yields 4 starters.  That doesn't get you where you need to go.

(03-15-2021, 06:21 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I wasn't really into football 20 years ago. I was much more into hockey back then. If he really said that back then, that's terrible.
If that's really still the mindset of "jump get to 8-8 because it puts butts in the seats," that's a tough sell for the fans who don't want to settle for that low of a standard.
The goal should be playoffs in 2021 and going deep in the playoffs 2022.

(03-15-2021, 06:19 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: Again, you're correct. I think I've reasoned with the fact about MB saying "the perfect team was an 8-8 team because it brought fans in the stands but saved money." 

(03-15-2021, 06:31 PM)fredtoast Wrote: So I seriously doubt Mike Brown ever said anything like this.

(03-15-2021, 06:31 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Teams that play home playoff games makes more money.  

Teams that win championships make TONS more money.

So I seriously doubt Mike Brown ever said anything like this.