(03-31-2021, 02:47 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: It could be video game numbers for Burrow and Pitts if used correctly, spot on Thompson. I mean, he isn't just a Red Zone threat
either. Pitts can take it the distance with his speed or run over smaller Defenders and take it the distance. His route running is superb.

(03-31-2021, 02:47 PM)Wyche Wrote: Because they couldn't run block for shit...lol

(03-31-2021, 12:49 PM)Rubekahn29 Wrote: The two teams in the Super Bowl had the two best skill position set of players in the NFL. Trenches are important, but skill players are as well.

(03-31-2021, 02:42 PM)Fulcher_33 Wrote: That's the thing, 1 YOU think that comes in and is ready, and I respect your opinion, but I don't agree on all those. 

I like Letherwood, Cosmi, and Eichenburg all could be extremely productive players for us. Radunz I agree is developmental. 

Little got hurt and then opted out, but before that he was in the mix with ALL the top guys and may slip only because of that. 

(03-31-2021, 02:46 PM)Fulcher_33 Wrote: Yeah I would be extremely happy with Pitts rd1, Leatherwood rd2.  (or Chase rd1)

(03-31-2021, 02:46 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: Boyd Higgins and Burrow all benefit from each other. 

Boyd has shown that he can put up 1000+ yards without a starting qb or AJ Green across from him

Of course they'd all benefit. But you dont need an elite wr talent to pair up with Boyd and Higgins. All we need is a Chris Henry type. 

but if they wanna grab chase and grab a guard in round 2, so be it.

That shouldnt be the first choice though. Neither should Pitts.

We have a RT on a 1 year contract and a LT that has yet to play a full season

(03-31-2021, 02:48 PM)Fulcher_33 Wrote: Watching his on field drills now, he is so fluid...

(03-31-2021, 02:39 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: based on...? 

Im curious if this is an emotional or logical argument here

because it cant be logical. So this makes my qustion to you a bit rhetorical

(03-31-2021, 02:51 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: But all the names here cause a debate, not a single one is a.. yup that guy is going to be the top guy in the class. He literally is a can't miss type of guy. On this list are good prospects with flaws, hence why they aren't in round 1.

So, do you take the potential flaw on the protection guy or the guy catching the ball?

Sewell - then you have Bateman, Toney, Dyami Brown, Marshall Jr, Elijah Moore, etc, etc. All of those WRs would come in and be a huge boost to the WR room.

It isn't like passing on Chase, dooms us at WR either... it's equally deep at WR. 

The only position group that isn't super deep that we are discussing here is TE. There is 3 guys, Pitts, Jordan from Miami and the TE from Penn State whose name I'm not typing out.

(03-31-2021, 02:48 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: nah bro, Zac Taylor just WANTS to throw it 50x per game. You dont get it

(03-31-2021, 02:49 PM)Beaker Wrote: Here's the thing...the "have to draft Sewell or Burrow dies" people think that if we draft Chase at #5 we are neglecting the glaring O line problem. Well, what if the next two rounds are O line picks? Is it still neglected? And why in your mind does it HAVE to be O line in the first?  Billy Price was a first round O line pick. Cedric Ogbuehi was a 1st round O line pick. First rounder does not guarantee good.

If you saw the results of Chase's pro day, cobined with his production at every level he's played, and his already established chemistry with Burrow, you'd be passing on the clear cut best WR prospect in the draft for the not clear cut best O line prospect in the draft. I think they'd be foolish to pass on Chase.

(03-31-2021, 02:58 PM)Fulcher_33 Wrote: Yeah that's why I said In a previous post I prefer Pitts and stated several reasons why, and then OL in rd2. 

Sewell isn't a sure thing either, is he considered at the top of his class? Sure, but some prefer Slater. Also Sewell has played limited amount of games, and also opted out last year, so he isn't a slam dunk.

Bateman will be gone, esp after his pro day and running 4.39. Marshall could be as well now with his Pro day. Brown I like who I mentioned in a draft thread, and Moore is a slot guy and not someone who will win on the outside so I don't think he fits here with Boyd manning the slot. 

I would be fine with whatever direction we went with the 3 options everyone is talking about. (Pitts, Chase, Sewell) because like I mentioned the positions of need are deep.

BUT My one Argument on Pitts is he is head and shoulders above anyone on the TE position. Like mentioned by someone he is the #2 rated player on the top scouts boards (DJ, Zeirline, etc) and the matchups nightmares he would cause to me is more impactful then even Chase, but thats JMO.

(03-31-2021, 02:46 PM)Fulcher_33 Wrote: Yeah I would be extremely happy with Pitts rd1, Leatherwood rd2.  (or Chase rd1)

(03-31-2021, 02:56 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: That he has underachieved with both teams he played for, that he makes critical mistakes in pressure situations, that he has been on really great teams in Minnesota with Thielen, Rudolph and Diggs and a great defense and he played flat... need I go on?

He lacks the metal side of the position that pushes you from being average to being a playoff winner, Super Bowl winner, etc. 

All 32 NFL starting QBs have the talent and tools, it really comes down to vision and the mental side that separates them from the pack (or athletic ability like Lamar Jackson)

(03-31-2021, 02:58 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: Are the Jets at the Pro Day for Chase? They need a WR more then anything. Perhaps they solve this debate for us themselves. Take Chase at 2 and then Pitts goes 4 to the Falcons.

Can't complain about the pick if the other options are gone.

(03-31-2021, 03:01 PM)hollodero Wrote: How is Sewell not the clear cut best O Line prospect? It is not guaranteed in the same sense that Chase is not guaranteed. Nothing ever is. But Sewell is as close as they come.

I am one of "those people" who felt Burrow getting hurt was not surprising and feels that adding Reiff did not fix the OLine; and while I would understand not taking OLine at all costs, I am fully in support of taking an OLiner if one is there that according to pretty much everyone is worth the No. 5 pick. Sewell does not compare to Ogbuehi or Price in that regard. At all.

(03-31-2021, 03:02 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: If you can get Leatherwood in rd2, I would be even happier with Sewell rd1, Leatherwood rd2.

Sewell/Williams/Hopkins/Leatherwod/Reiff

Can win a game or two with that OL.

(03-31-2021, 03:04 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: There are some people that have Slater ahead of him. Most notably Daniel Jeremiah.

(03-31-2021, 03:02 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: I actually like Slater's versatility. The ability to play all 5 spots on the line is amazing plus the way he shut down Chase Young was awesome as well.

People around here would lose their minds, but if we could manage to trade back in one and take Slater while adding another 2nd round pick, I think it becomes the best long term move for the franchise. It isn't the one that people will like... but it does fill more holes with more high quality players then any other move we make. But as you stated, this is just my opinion... and the Bengals will do what the Bengals will do.