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RE: ***Official 2021 NFL Draft Thread*** - t3r3e3 - 05-01-2021
(05-01-2021, 12:39 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Me too, but I’m actually more upset about the Ravens getting Ben Cleveland. They already run all over us...
Hate to say it, but Bengals looking like a 4th place team in the AFC North again. The o line still sucks. The defensive front 7 is weak. Not a hot take, it’s gonna be hard to win more than 5-6 games playing in this division
RE: ***Official 2021 NFL Draft Thread*** - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 05-01-2021
(05-01-2021, 12:39 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Me too, but I’m actually more upset about the Ravens getting Ben Cleveland. They already run all over us...
Hopefully having some healthy DT's will help and some decent play calling on D.
Cause yeah, I also liked Ben Cleveland. Damn Ratbirds.
I think the main reason why I didn't talk about him much was his name.
RE: ***Official 2021 NFL Draft Thread*** - Nicomo Cosca - 05-01-2021
(05-01-2021, 12:46 AM)t3r3e3 Wrote: Hate to say it, but Bengals looking like a 4th place team in the AFC North again. The o line still sucks. The defensive front 7 is weak. Not a hot take, it’s gonna be hard to win more than 5-6 games playing in this division
I think we’ll be better than Pittsburgh. Ben looked awful down the stretch.
RE: ***Official 2021 NFL Draft Thread*** - CarolinaBengalFanGuy - 05-01-2021
(05-01-2021, 12:48 AM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Hopefully having some healthy DT's will help and some decent play calling on D.
Cause yeah, I also liked Ben Cleveland. Damn Ratbirds.
I think the main reason why I didn't talk about him much was his name.
More like Ben Baltimore
RE: ***Official 2021 NFL Draft Thread*** - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 05-01-2021
(05-01-2021, 12:46 AM)t3r3e3 Wrote: Hate to say it, but Bengals looking like a 4th place team in the AFC North again. The o line still sucks. The defensive front 7 is weak. Not a hot take, it’s gonna be hard to win more than 5-6 games playing in this division
You mean with this coaching we have seen the last few years. They are young though. Bet we win more then 6 games, still isn't
enough, need to win twice that for the HC and company to stick around. At least the team is sitting pretty good for a good new HC.
RE: ***Official 2021 NFL Draft Thread*** - J24 - 05-01-2021
(05-01-2021, 12:46 AM)t3r3e3 Wrote: Hate to say it, but Bengals looking like a 4th place team in the AFC North again. The o line still sucks. The defensive front 7 is weak. Not a hot take, it’s gonna be hard to win more than 5-6 games playing in this division
Agreed that we will be 4th but Offensive Line won't suck this year. Carmen and Rieff will be good players for us.
RE: ***Official 2021 NFL Draft Thread*** - CarolinaBengalFanGuy - 05-01-2021
(05-01-2021, 12:50 AM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: You mean with this coaching we have seen the last few years. They are young though. Bet we win more then 6 games, still isn't
enough, need to win twice that for the HC and company to stick around. At least the team is sitting pretty good for a good new HC.
Honestly 9 or 10 wins will do it. Shit 8 wins might do it, but only because he was so damn awful mediocrity will be rewarded.
RE: ***Official 2021 NFL Draft Thread*** - J24 - 05-01-2021
(05-01-2021, 12:50 AM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: You mean with this coaching we have seen the last few years. They are young though. Bet we win more then 6 games, still isn't
enough, need to win twice that for the HC and company to stick around. At least the team is sitting pretty good for a good new HC.
Zimmer is going to be our Head Coach next season!
RE: ***Official 2021 NFL Draft Thread*** - Dr.Z - 05-01-2021
James Hudson (as I mentioned on previous page ) would be a great pick. Alaric Jackson is another. Some like Stone Forsythe , although I would think he’s in a tier below the aforementioned two. I think people are sleeping on Hudson though. Needs development, but he has huge upside for this late in the draft.
RE: ***Official 2021 NFL Draft Thread*** - tms - 05-01-2021
(04-29-2021, 07:56 PM)tms Wrote: Nobody cares but here are the guys I'm targeting for different reasons. They don't all fit our system, but they all fit my tastes.:
QB: -
RB: Kenneth Gainwell (3/4),Trey Sermon (4/5), Rhamondre Stevenson (4/5), Jermar Jefferson (5/6)
WR:Rashod Bateman (1/2), Terrace Marshall (1/2), D'Wayne Eskridge (3/4), Cornell Powell (5/6), Simi Fehoko (5/6), Marlon Williams (7), Damonte Coxie (7)
TE:Tommy Tremble (3/4), Ben Mason (6/7; FB/TE), John Bates (7)
OT:Penei Sewell (1), Teven Jenkins (1), Spencer Brown (3/4), Brady Christensen (3/4), D'Ante Smith (4), Josh Ball (7), Drew Himmelman (UDFA)
IOL:Wyatt Davis (2), Creed Humphrey (2), Quinn Meinerz (3), David Moore (4), Sadarius Hutcherson (5/6), Robert Jones (5/6), Kayode Awosika (UDFA)
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DT:Osa Odighizuwa (4), Bobby Brown III (4/5)
Edge:Jaelan Phillips (2), Gregory Rousseau (1/2), Jayson Oweh (2), Ronnie Perkins (2/3), Dayo Odeyingbo (3), Quincy Roche (3),Patrick Jones II (4), William Bradley-King (6),Malcolm Koonce (7)
LB:Micah Parsons (1), Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah (1), Jamin Davis (2/3), Chazz Surratt (3/4), Derrick Barnes (4)
CB:Asante Samuel Jr (2), Eric Stokes (2), Paulson Adebo (3), Benjamin St. Juste (3/4), Ifeatu Melifonwu (3/4), Kary Vincent Jr (4/5), Shakur Brown (5), Shemar Jean-Charles (6/7),Nahshon Wright (UDFA)
S:Richie Grant (2), Jevon Holland (2), Divine Deablo (3/4), Talanoa Hufanga (4), Damar Hamlin (5/6)
K: Evan McPherson (7), Riley Patterson (UDFA)
P: -
LS: Ryan Langan (1), Camaron Cheeseman (1), Turner Bernard (1), Brett Dioguardi (1), Adam Bay (1) ... j/k lol
... So if anyone else becomes a star in this league, I can't complain bc I wouldn'ta picked them myself!
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* Also, just for the record, I'd pursue the following positions:
OL *21
WR *21
DL *21
Joker * 2 (one of these would probably be another OL, but not necessarily)
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Enjoy the draft, y'all. Let's hope we come out of it with some studs.
^ Just updating my targets here. Guys still on the board in green. Paying especially close attention to Gainwell, Jefferson, Powell, Fehoko, Coxie, D'Ante Smith, David Moore, Hutcherson, Barnes, Shakur Brown and Hufanga. If we land one of them I'll be happy, two I'll be thrilled. Here's hopin'.
RE: ***Official 2021 NFL Draft Thread*** - NUGDUKWE - 05-01-2021
I don't think we were gonna do anything substantial this year regardless of the draft. But we have 3 4th rd picks coming and I hope we go oline with the 1st and then the other 2 there's still talent at DE that we can get a rotational developmental player and maybe a TE or safety.
RE: ***Official 2021 NFL Draft Thread*** - Whatever - 05-01-2021
(05-01-2021, 12:43 AM)bengaloo Wrote: Ok so Im hoping someone makes a list of the best players at our positions of need. Mainly OL and DL.
Guys Lance Zuerlein has at least a "Good backup who could become a starter" grade
T-Stone Forsythe, Jaylon Moore, Josh Ball
G-Trey Smith, Deonte Brown, Royce Newman, Jared Hocker
C-Michal Menet
Edge-Chris Rumph II, Charles Snowden, Jordan Smith, Patrick Johnson
DT-Bobby Brown III, Tyler Shelving, Jay Tufele, Daviyon Nixon, Jaylen Twymen
WR-Cade Johnson, Tylan Wallace, Amon-Ra St. Brown, Cornell Powell, Tamorrian Terry, Austin Watkins
RB-Michael Carter, Rhamondre Stevens, Kenneth Gainwell
LB-Jabril Cox, Dylan Moses, Buddy Johnson, Cameron Mcgrone
RE: ***Official 2021 NFL Draft Thread*** - bengaloo - 05-01-2021
Well we got the best WR to come out in a while, a very promising OG and a pass rusher who is a beast with a high ceiling plus 2 more 4th round picks. I cant grade drafts, but it could be much worse.
RE: ***Official 2021 NFL Draft Thread*** - CarolinaBengalFanGuy - 05-01-2021
I'd like to see Jabril Cox in the 4th also with another lineman.
RE: ***Official 2021 NFL Draft Thread*** - t3r3e3 - 05-01-2021
(05-01-2021, 12:49 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: I think we’ll be better than Pittsburgh. Ben looked awful down the stretch.
It’s be nice to beat Shittsburgh in 2021. The o-line and d-line still seem pretty weak. I want to see improvement, but it’s hard to see more than 5-7 wins.
RE: ***Official 2021 NFL Draft Thread*** - Dr.Z - 05-01-2021
(05-01-2021, 12:55 AM)Dr.Z Wrote: James Hudson (as I mentioned on previous page ) would be a great pick. Alaric Jackson is another. Some like Stone Forsythe , although I would think he’s in a tier below the aforementioned two. I think people are sleeping on Hudson though. Needs development, but he has huge upside for this late in the draft.
Sorry to quote myself , but I’ll add D’ante Smith as well. Still surprised at the seemingly lack of buzz on Hudson for the next pick.
Edit to add *Trey Smith (thought he had been taken for some reason)
* Royce Newman (could play guard/tackle)
The sky hasn’t fallen
RE: ***Official 2021 NFL Draft Thread*** - Yogo - 05-01-2021
(05-01-2021, 01:00 AM)CarolinaBengalFanGuy Wrote: I'd like to see Jabril Cox in the 4th also with another lineman.
Jabril is a great coverage LB, fast, I like him, but we have a whole bunch of coverage LBs. Need more run stopping and tackling imo.
RE: ***Official 2021 NFL Draft Thread*** - bengaloo - 05-01-2021
(05-01-2021, 12:59 AM)Whatever Wrote: Guys Lance Zuerlein has at least a "Good backup who could become a starter" grade
T-Stone Forsythe, Jaylon Moore, Josh Ball
G-Trey Smith, Deonte Brown, Royce Newman, Jared Hocker
C-Michal Menet
Edge-Chris Rumph II, Charles Snowden, Jordan Smith, Patrick Johnson
DT-Bobby Brown III, Tyler Shelving, Jay Tufele, Daviyon Nixon, Jaylen Twymen
WR-Cade Johnson, Tylan Wallace, Amon-Ra St. Brown, Cornell Powell, Tamorrian Terry, Austin Watkins
RB-Michael Carter, Rhamondre Stevens, Kenneth Gainwell
LB-Jabril Cox, Dylan Moses, Buddy Johnson, Cameron Mcgrone
Thank you for posting this. With 3 picks in the 4th we are bound to end up with a couple or three of these guys. Its funny because I've thought for some reason that Stone Forsythe might be a guy we target in later rounds even though I never picked him in a mock simulator.
I would be happy with Trey Smith, Deonte Brown, most of those DT's, Cox might not be a bad pickup since Bynes is gone. Cade Johnson is a playmaker and it would be hard to not like getting him. He could replace Erickson and be an upgrade imo.
RE: ***Official 2021 NFL Draft Thread*** - rfaulk34 - 05-01-2021
(05-01-2021, 12:59 AM)Whatever Wrote: Guys Lance Zuerlein has at least a "Good backup who could become a starter" grade
T-Stone Forsythe, Jaylon Moore, Josh Ball
G-Trey Smith, Deonte Brown, Royce Newman, Jared Hocker
C-Michal Menet
Edge-Chris Rumph II, Charles Snowden, Jordan Smith, Patrick Johnson
DT-Bobby Brown III, Tyler Shelving, Jay Tufele, Daviyon Nixon, Jaylen Twymen
WR-Cade Johnson, Tylan Wallace, Amon-Ra St. Brown, Cornell Powell, Tamorrian Terry, Austin Watkins
RB-Michael Carter, Rhamondre Stevens, Kenneth Gainwell
LB-Jabril Cox, Dylan Moses, Buddy Johnson, Cameron Mcgrone
Royce Newman is a guy i've had my eye on in the 4th.
RE: ***Official 2021 NFL Draft Thread*** - t3r3e3 - 05-01-2021
(05-01-2021, 12:50 AM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: You mean with this coaching we have seen the last few years. They are young though. Bet we win more then 6 games, still isn't
enough, need to win twice that for the HC and company to stick around. At least the team is sitting pretty good for a good new HC.
7-10 would be a step forward. Problem is the FO does not seem to value the lines. The Bengals current starter and reserve groupings on the lines are meh at best. Burrow only has 4 years until his contract starts becoming a drain on the cap. Aggressive moves this offseason/draft are warranted. Instead we have the standard lukewarm approach.