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Missouri governor pardons couple who aimed guns at BLM protesters - GMDino - 08-03-2021 https://nypost.com/2021/08/03/missouri-gov-pardons-couple-who-aimed-guns-at-blm-protesters/?utm_source=NYPTwitter&utm_medium=SocialFlow&utm_campaign=SocialFlow Quote:Missouri’s governor pardoned the gun-toting lawyers who brandished firearms at Black Lives Matter protesters marching past their St. Louis home last year. RE: Missouri governor pardons couple who aimed guns at BLM protesters - GMDino - 08-03-2021 In what I am *sure* is an unrelated note... https://www.kcur.org/news/2021-06-03/missouri-governor-does-not-pardon-kevin-strickland-who-prosecutor-says-is-wrongfully-imprisoned Missouri Governor Does Not Pardon Kevin Strickland, Who Prosecutor Says Is Wrongfully Imprisoned Quote:Kevin Strickland's name is not among the 36 people listed for pardon from Gov. Mike Parson on May 31. RE: Missouri governor pardons couple who aimed guns at BLM protesters - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 08-04-2021 (08-03-2021, 09:28 PM)GMDino Wrote: https://nypost.com/2021/08/03/missouri-gov-pardons-couple-who-aimed-guns-at-blm-protesters/?utm_source=NYPTwitter&utm_medium=SocialFlow&utm_campaign=SocialFlow The charges should have been dismissed due to gross prosecutorial misconduct by Kim Gardner. https://www.kmov.com/news/kim-gardner-faces-professional-misconduct-probe-could-lose-law-license/article_f1182b32-ad21-11eb-98d6-67108d86a9bb.html Those people are idiots, and while I don't blame them to the extent that others do, they were absolutely treated with massive unfairness by the DA. The DA's office even reassembled the pistol the wife was holding because, as she was wielding it, it was non-functional. So, in order to prosecute her for wielding a firearm the DA's office has the gun disassembled and put back in working order. https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/local/gardner-staffer-ordered-crime-lab-to-reassemble-patricia-mccloskeys-gun/63-be112149-d06c-4f54-a225-6545e74b5c2d Such gross misconduct by the DA's office should have resulted in instant dismissal of all charges. So like or hate these people the governor did the right thing by them. RE: Missouri governor pardons couple who aimed guns at BLM protesters - GMDino - 08-05-2021 (08-04-2021, 01:15 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: The charges should have been dismissed due to gross prosecutorial misconduct by Kim Gardner. And, predictably, you skipped over the first story to defend the two "idiots" (your word) vs the man actually in prison for something he didin't do at all. Keep up the good fight. RE: Missouri governor pardons couple who aimed guns at BLM protesters - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 08-05-2021 (08-05-2021, 08:28 AM)GMDino Wrote: And, predictably, you skipped over the first story to defend the two "idiots" (your word) vs the man actually in prison for something he didin't do at all. Because I'm not familiar with that story, at all. But keep making bigoted assumptions about others, it's definitely in your wheelhouse. I notice you didn't have a single response to the actual post I made, sadly typical. RE: Missouri governor pardons couple who aimed guns at BLM protesters - GMDino - 08-05-2021 (08-05-2021, 10:38 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Because I'm not familiar with that story, at all. But keep making bigoted assumptions about others, it's definitely in your wheelhouse. I notice you didn't have a single response to the actual post I made, sadly typical. I posted the story. He was falsely convicted. The witnesses recanted. The prosecutor said he was innoncent. The governor you praised for pardoning two people you said were "absolutely treated with massive unfairness" couldn't find the way to pardon an innocent man. I wonder what the difference is between the two? RE: Missouri governor pardons couple who aimed guns at BLM protesters - TheLeonardLeap - 08-05-2021 (08-05-2021, 08:28 AM)GMDino Wrote: And, predictably, you skipped over the first story to defend the two "idiots" (your word) vs the man actually in prison for something he didin't do at all. Isn't the two idiots the first story? It was the first post and the thread is even named after them. If you wanted the innocent guy to be the main point of the thread and the one that people respond to, why didn't you post that first and name the thread "innocent man can't get pardon"? This seems like a really bizarre stance by you. RE: Missouri governor pardons couple who aimed guns at BLM protesters - Dill - 08-05-2021 (08-05-2021, 02:40 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Isn't the two idiots the first story? It was the first post and the thread is even named after them. If you wanted the innocent guy to be the main point of the thread and the one that people respond to, why didn't you post that first and name the thread "innocent man can't get pardon"? This seems like a really bizarre stance by you. Why pardon the gun enthusiasts but not someone in prison 43 years on a wrongful conviction? Possibly the contrast makes a point about about how justice worked for the unrepentant 2A patriots, but not for the wrongfully convicted. So the thread is still about them if the difference is the question and justice-for-some is the theme. RE: Missouri governor pardons couple who aimed guns at BLM protesters - TheLeonardLeap - 08-05-2021 (08-05-2021, 02:54 PM)Dill Wrote: Why pardon the gun enthusiasts but not someone in prison 43 years on a wrongful conviction? Why not pardon both? My point wasn't about who should or shouldn't get pardoned though. My point was someone made a thread with an initial post, titled the thread on that initial post, and then gave someone shit for replying to the initial post. That's insanity. RE: Missouri governor pardons couple who aimed guns at BLM protesters - Dill - 08-05-2021 (08-05-2021, 02:58 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Why not pardon both? My point wasn't about who should or shouldn't get pardoned though. My point was someone made a thread with an initial post, titled the thread on that initial post, and then gave someone shit for replying to the initial post. That's insanity. That's the question Dino was raising, len. Also, I think Dino gave someone shit for replying to the second post, without making the connection to the first. Notice how D kept harping on that connection. RE: Missouri governor pardons couple who aimed guns at BLM protesters - GMDino - 08-05-2021 (08-05-2021, 02:40 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Isn't the two idiots the first story? It was the first post and the thread is even named after them. If you wanted the innocent guy to be the main point of the thread and the one that people respond to, why didn't you post that first and name the thread "innocent man can't get pardon"? This seems like a really bizarre stance by you. Man, you got me. I said first story and not second. Biggest mistake I ever made on here. But I do thank you for the tip on how to post and in what order to make a point rather than the way I chose to do it, rather than commenting on the posts. (I'll be sure to check in with others for help before doing it again.) Although I *did* post them in that order to make the second story the point...as I noted that it was probably unrelated. (That was sarcasm which doesn't come across in text very well and is sadly missed by quite a few around here who seem to take everything literally.) The "bizarre" thing is SSF jumped to the defense of the two people and not the innocent guy in jail. Or, you know, both. RE: Missouri governor pardons couple who aimed guns at BLM protesters - GMDino - 08-05-2021 (08-05-2021, 03:20 PM)Dill Wrote: That's the question Dino was raising, len. Amen. RE: Missouri governor pardons couple who aimed guns at BLM protesters - TheLeonardLeap - 08-05-2021 (08-05-2021, 03:27 PM)GMDino Wrote: Man, you got me. I said first story and not second. If you want to be a shit to people who comment on your thread, that's your prerogative, I guess. Sure glad you returned just to make threads and then give people shit about replying to your thread. Hell, when I click "reply" in this thread, what's put at the very top of my post by this message board? Quote:Reply to thread: Missouri governor pardons couple who aimed guns at BLM protesters You didn't make the thread "Missouri governor pardons couple who aimed guns but not innocent man". In which case, sure, why not address the second half as well? But you didn't. Next time maybe rather than checking in with others for help before doing so again, you should instead put some rules at the start of your thread saying "yes, this is what I titled my post, but I don't want you to respond to it, I want you to respond to stuff later in the thread" if you're going to get on people's case (and do it wrongly) when they reply to both your thread title and OP. Sure glad you came back. We were certainly missing this on TheBengalsBoard in your absence. RE: Missouri governor pardons couple who aimed guns at BLM protesters - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 08-05-2021 (08-05-2021, 01:34 PM)GMDino Wrote: I posted the story. He was falsely convicted. The witnesses recanted. The prosecutor said he was innoncent. The governor you praised for pardoning two people you said were "absolutely treated with massive unfairness" couldn't find the way to pardon an innocent man. You posted one article about it. You'll please forgive me if I don't take anything reported by the news at face value without getting other input. I'd have to think there's more to this then what's stated in your article for the governor to not consider a pardon. Quote:I wonder what the difference is between the two? No need to wonder, I literally already said it. I'm familiar with the entire backstory of the McClosky case, from their initial arrest to the gross prosecutorial misconduct that you don't have the balls to address. You've really become an ugly person in your absence. (08-05-2021, 05:27 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: If you want to be a shit to people who comment on your thread, that's your prerogative, I guess. Sure glad you returned just to make threads and then give people shit about replying to your thread. Indeed. Quite the auspicious return. RE: Missouri governor pardons couple who aimed guns at BLM protesters - Benton - 08-06-2021 (08-04-2021, 01:15 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: The charges should have been dismissed due to gross prosecutorial misconduct by Kim Gardner. Eh, that doesn't go too far on their support. Just because she was apparently not smart enough to operate a firearm doesn't mean she didn't have intent. I mean, I can try to stab you with a salad tong. Is the intent of violence there? Yup. Is the ability? No, cause I'd be as dumb as this lady. Not to mention,that's only her dumb assedness, not including the husband's. I mean, if you are going to argue her innocence based off the ignorance, then presumably he's guilty as there was no lack of understanding how his rifle worked when he pointed it at unarmed people. RE: Missouri governor pardons couple who aimed guns at BLM protesters - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 08-06-2021 (08-06-2021, 12:11 AM)Benton Wrote: Eh, that doesn't go too far on their support. Just because she was apparently not smart enough to operate a firearm doesn't mean she didn't have intent. I think you're misunderstanding some very salient points. One, I've never been a defender of their actions. I even reiterated in this thread that I thought what they did was stupid. Two, based on your statement I don't think you understand exactly what was done by the DA's office in regard to her firearm. The firearm she was brandishing, with zero trigger discipline, had been rendered unable to fire. It was incapable of discharging, and McClosky was aware of this. One of the charges brought against her by the DA required the firearm to be operational for the crime to have occurred. To facilitate this the DA's office ordered the gun repaired to operational status so they could press those charges. To reiterate, the DA deliberately and knowingly falsified evidence in order to mischarge McClosky. As stupid as their actions were the actions by the DA and her office were infinitely worse. If that level of blatant corruption was used to charge a left leaning couple then the same people crying about the outcome in this thread would be howling for blood. But don't take my word for it, actually read the links in my first post. RE: Missouri governor pardons couple who aimed guns at BLM protesters - GMDino - 08-06-2021 (08-05-2021, 06:13 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: You posted one article about it. You'll please forgive me if I don't take anything reported by the news at face value without getting other input. I'd have to think there's more to this then what's stated in your article for the governor to not consider a pardon. Literally the story says everything you need to know. You actively choose to ignore it when compared to your pet gun case of the week. RE: Missouri governor pardons couple who aimed guns at BLM protesters - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 08-06-2021 (08-06-2021, 09:15 AM)GMDino Wrote: Literally the story says everything you need to know. You actively choose to ignore it when compared to your pet gun case of the week. Your posts grow more insipid by the day. I already stated, I don't take any single news story at face value. Are you saying a person can know everything about a story simply from reading one article? Are you saying that there can't possibly be other facts about this case that aren't covered by your one, two page at best, article? As for the McClosky case, I have presented factual evidence, backed by multiple sources, that demonstrably proves they were the victims of severe prosecutorial misconduct. Misconduct that you have obviously deliberately avoided addressing because you know doing so would weaken your inane attack on me. Again, if the DA did to a BLM supporter what they did to the McClosky's you'd be howling for their blood and screaming fascism. Sincerely, you were never very good at this, but since you came back your posts have degenerated to TommyC /GA9 level. It's rather pathetic. so either engage on this topic in an honest fashion or kindly stop wasting my time. RE: Missouri governor pardons couple who aimed guns at BLM protesters - Dill - 08-06-2021 (08-06-2021, 09:15 AM)GMDino Wrote: Literally the story says everything you need to know. You actively choose to ignore it when compared to your pet gun case of the week. I still think the primary theme of the thread, once you posted the story of the failed pardon, is about the Missouri Governor's skewed sense of justice. Even if a prosecutor tampered with the woman's weapon to make it functional, this injustice falls rather short of 43 years in prison for a crime one didn't commit. Important here is the distinction between "dismissal" and "pardon." The "two idiots" case could have easily been handled by the former. The Strickland case not. That's the issue, and not what you would do if a prosecutor tampered with evidence in the case of a BLM protestor. RE: Missouri governor pardons couple who aimed guns at BLM protesters - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 08-06-2021 (08-06-2021, 12:03 PM)Dill Wrote: I still think the primary theme of the thread, once you posted the story of the failed pardon, is about the Missouri Governor's skewed sense of justice. I guess GM's lack of reading comprehension is contagious. Do you think you know everything there is to know about the other case? Do you think there just might be more to the story than what is contained in a probably page and a half article? If it was as cut and dry as stated why wouldn't the governor pardon the man? I'm sure someone like you will immediately go to racism, but maybe, just maybe, there's more to this story? As for ranking tiers of injustice, we can definitively prove the McClosky's were the victims of gross prosecutorial misconduct. We know that because the DA's office admitted to it. Maybe that's the issue, and not your little buddy's outrage that someone would point out that victim's of gross prosecutorial misconduct should have their charges dropped. I guess when the facts aren't on your side outrage and thinly veiled accusation of racism is all you've got left in your arsenal. Lastly, if the man in prison is indeed innocent then I hope he is released, but that has no bearing on the correct decision made in the McClosky case. |