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RE: Roe Vs Wade Overturned - GMDino - 04-20-2023 (04-19-2023, 10:43 PM)guyofthetiger Wrote: What about the life of the baby created by rape? I guess some people think it is worthless. There have been women who gave birth to a baby after being raped. All life should be valued. Some people can forgive horrible events. As soon as we can safely transplant it into the rapists body for him to carry to term I'm all for it. Until then the choice belongs to the woman who was raped. RE: Roe Vs Wade Overturned - Nately120 - 04-20-2023 (04-20-2023, 04:40 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Think you're talking about just the past. Because of the rioting, pandemic, and crime, African American gun ownership jumped 58% (primarily black women) in the first 6 months of 2020 alone. It's the biggest increase of any demographic.. Since then the Supreme Court made the DC v Heller ruling and 10 states have had permit-less concealed carry come into effect. I hear ya, but a few buts (I'm a but man, aren't we all?). The Governor Reagan gun control thing is always relevant as long as he's the gilded golden child of the modern day conservative party. Still, while blacks are legally obtaining firearms you still aren't likely to see a lot of pride or advertisements regarding blacks arming themselves to defend themselves from militarized or racist police officers...as much as we love to talk about the idea of the 2A saving us from government overreach. Add in that recent events have shown at least the loudest conservative voices open to the idea of limiting firearm availability to trans people in light of a shooting, and it could be said that people still picture the 2A putting guns in the hands of good (ie, white conservative) people. The military may not be as "for the poor" as it was when my ol' man was drafted, but during the student loan forgiveness debate it was said out loud that easing the financial burden of higher education will hamstring one of their main recruiting tools, so the aspect is still relevant. Back to banning weapons that black folks were legally able to get, apparently in PA the switchblade ban from the 50s was lifted in January of this year, but brass knuckles are still illegal. In this state since 1958 it has been deemed illegal to carry an "offensive weapon" so make sense of that. Anyways, I'm off to buy a switchblade, some Brylcreem and a fresh pack of Luckies. EDIT - I just realized this is the Roe vs Wade thread. I'm just a generic political sour grapist...sorry. RE: Roe Vs Wade Overturned - Arturo Bandini - 04-20-2023 (04-19-2023, 10:43 PM)guyofthetiger Wrote: What about the life of the baby created by rape? I guess some people think it is worthless. There have been women who gave birth to a baby after being raped. All life should be valued. Some people can forgive horrible events. If you are so obessed with the sacrity of life, maybe you should check if you can give a kidney to someone who needs one to continue his journey through life ... RE: Roe Vs Wade Overturned - pally - 04-20-2023 (04-19-2023, 10:43 PM)guyofthetiger Wrote: What about the life of the baby created by rape? I guess some people think it is worthless. There have been women who gave birth to a baby after being raped. All life should be valued. Some people can forgive horrible events. Women have CHOSEN to give birth after rape. It shouldn't be up to anyone else to decide what she can physically, mentally, and financially handle. You would think that pro-birthers consider life valuable but no. They are willing to sacrifice the life or health of the mother for the child. They are willing to sacrifice a woman's living children for her unborn one. There is far more to being pro-life than simply being pro-birth You will never ever legislate abortion out of existence. They will legislate away access to safe abortion. They will prevent access to abortion by poor women If you want to prevent abortion then address the issues that lead to that choice. Something that these state legislators and Congressmen refuse to do 1) Let's start off by preventing pregnancy...comprehensive sex education starting early. If a 10 year can get pregnant a 10 year needs to know how and why it happens in the first place and how to prevent it. Multiple studies show that the more informed a young person (boys and girls) is about sex the more likely they are to wait and to use birth control. Teaching abstinence-only DOES NOT WORK. I used to run a women's healthcare message board. The lack of knowledge about sex from young women is frightening. 2) Easy and affordable access to a variety of birth control methods...with or without parental permission. I'm sorry conservative Christian parents but your kids proudly wearing their chastity rings are having sex. Those girls are the most likely to have an abortion without parental knowledge 3) Comprehensive medical care including mental health 4) living wages 5) a real food safety net 6) affordable and safe housing 7) paid parental leave 8) affordable and accessible childcare available regardless of what shift the parent works 9) real support for families with disabled children 10) protect women from their rapist's involvement in their or child's life 11) education and job training assistance additionally 1) massive research is needed into preventing pregnancy complications that kill women every day 2) massive research is needed into anomalies that cause congenital disabilities in the child. Keep in mind even with everything in place that the need for abortion will still exist. Women will still experience life-threatening complications that require termination of the pregnancy. And the woman shouldn't have to wait until they are on their deathbed to do so. Fetuses will still have developmental problems that are incompatible with life. No woman should be forced to carry a pregnancy that will end with the baby living in pain for only minutes or days. Oh, and being pro-death penalty is incompatible with being pro-life. Either life is valued or it is not. It is easy to be pro-birth....it is much harder to be truly pro-life RE: Roe Vs Wade Overturned - Nately120 - 04-20-2023 Man, no wonder there aren't any chicks here. Well, except for when Shayne Graham's sister would show up. RE: Roe Vs Wade Overturned - pally - 04-20-2023 (04-20-2023, 10:42 AM)Nately120 Wrote: Man, no wonder there aren't any chicks here. Well, except for when Shayne Graham's sister would show up. maybe if you didn't call women chicks there would be more of us RE: Roe Vs Wade Overturned - Nately120 - 04-20-2023 (04-20-2023, 10:44 AM)pally Wrote: maybe if you didn't call women chicks there would be more of us It's nothing personal, but since I got married my wife insisted I be as repellent to other women as possible. RE: Roe Vs Wade Overturned - KillerGoose - 04-27-2023 Here is a very unfortunate case right here in Oklahoma. A woman who had a molar pregnancy that became cancerous was told that a surgical abortion could not be performed until she was "crashing" or her blood pressure went so high that she was on the brink of a heart attack. She was told that she had to wait in the parking lot until her condition deteriorated enough to be seen. Link. Oklahoma has some of the most restrictive abortion laws in the nation. There is a clause for medical emergencies but this did not fit under the medical emergency clause at that point in time, so she had to wait for it to become one. Eventually, she went to Wichita to have the procedure performed. The clinic she visited had protestors holding signs that said "Stone The Whores". For proponents of abortion restriction - is this acceptable in your opinion? Is this what you are wanting, or is this too restrictive? RE: Roe Vs Wade Overturned - BigPapaKain - 04-27-2023 (04-27-2023, 09:48 AM)KillerGoose Wrote: Here is a very unfortunate case right here in Oklahoma. A woman who had a molar pregnancy that became cancerous was told that a surgical abortion could not be performed until she was "crashing" or her blood pressure went so high that she was on the brink of a heart attack. She was told that she had to wait in the parking lot until her condition deteriorated enough to be seen. Ah the party of life watching as non-life ruins a life. So wholesome. So loving. So full of shit. RE: Roe Vs Wade Overturned - Nately120 - 04-27-2023 (04-27-2023, 09:48 AM)KillerGoose Wrote: The clinic she visited had protestors holding signs that said "Stone The Whores". If these people showed enough conviction in their vindictive old testament stuff to stone Trump and MTG for their whoring I would have to begrudgingly respect their supposed morals. RE: Roe Vs Wade Overturned - GMDino - 04-27-2023 Honestly they all live in caves, don't they?
RE: Roe Vs Wade Overturned - samhain - 04-28-2023 (04-19-2023, 10:43 PM)guyofthetiger Wrote: What about the life of the baby created by rape? I guess some people think it is worthless. There have been women who gave birth to a baby after being raped. All life should be valued. Some people can forgive horrible events. Some people being amenable to being forced to have kids after a rape does not equate to all people being legally compelled to do the same. That's like saying that people should all be forced to eat 60 hot dogs in ten minutes because Joey Chestnut did it voluntarily. I mean, some people can do it, right? Why shouldn't everyone? RE: Roe Vs Wade Overturned - GMDino - 05-27-2023 Update on the charges against the doctor: https://www.indystar.com/story/news/local/2023/05/26/doctors-react-indiana-abortion-case-caitlin-bernard-reprimand/70261267007/ Quote:'Chilling effect': National experts decry decision against abortion doctor Caitlin Bernard RE: Roe Vs Wade Overturned - Dill - 05-27-2023 (05-27-2023, 02:45 PM)GMDino Wrote: Update on the charges against the doctor: So the doctor is charged with revealing information she did not actually reveal, but which was forced into public domain in consequence of her prosecution? And then she's nailed with a State Board reprimand and fine for their violation of patients rights? Neat. RE: Roe Vs Wade Overturned - pally - 06-13-2023 for some women, pregnancy is a death sentence even Olympians
RE: Roe Vs Wade Overturned - BFritz21 - 06-13-2023 (06-13-2023, 01:15 PM)pally Wrote: for some women, pregnancy is a death sentence even Olympians She had medical complications and died at home alone when she was 8 months pregnant. RE: Roe Vs Wade Overturned - pally - 06-13-2023 (06-13-2023, 02:09 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: She had medical complications and died at home alone when she was 8 months pregnant.Right...complications due to being pregnant. Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk RE: Roe Vs Wade Overturned - BFritz21 - 06-13-2023 (06-13-2023, 02:22 PM)pally Wrote: Right...complications due to being pregnant.Did she want an abortion and was denied? RE: Roe Vs Wade Overturned - pally - 06-13-2023 (06-13-2023, 02:41 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: Did she want an abortion and was denied? Pro birth people act like pregnancy is a benign condition when in fact women die or are permanently injured because of it. There is only 1 cure for pre-eclampsia and that is delivery regardless of gestational age of the fetus. In Florida, for that to happen the woman has to be literally on her death bed at which point there is no guarantee she would survive healthily or in fact even survive. Legislators shouldn't get to decide what is a medical emergergent or life threatening situation in pregnancy...doctors dshould but in Florida, Texas, and other states they wrote these 6 week laws so broadly that doctors can't prevent a guaranteed emergent situation RE: Roe Vs Wade Overturned - michaelsean - 06-13-2023 (06-13-2023, 03:26 PM)pally Wrote: Pro birth people act like pregnancy is a benign condition when in fact women die or are permanently injured because of it. I guess not everyone is allowed to self-identify. |