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So who is that starter at LG? - fredtoast - 08-28-2022
Zac dodged the question in his post game interview.
Is Cordell Volson entrenched as the starter at left guard?
"This was Jackson's (Carman) opportunity. He had missed a couple days. He didn't get to play last week, so we thought we gave him a great opportunity to show himself today."
When you went back to watch the film on Cordell Volson, what do you see?
"I see steady improvement. He's consistent. We know what we're getting out of him. It's real important to him. Again, we've seen steady improvement from him over the course of training camp."
It is all nothing but coach-speak gobbledygook.
To me I think it is still 2 weeks until the season starts so he does not want to commit
Wasn't Carman still listed as #1 on the depth chart going into the Rams game? But does the fact that Volson did not play mean he is #1 now?
Have there been any other tweets or comments from any reliable sources?
RE: So who is that starter at LG? - Tony - 08-28-2022
I'd have to guess Volson...
RE: So who is that starter at LG? - Rubekahn29 - 08-28-2022
The fact Volson didn’t get in at all yesterday and took all number 1 snaps all week, it’s pretty safe to assume it’s Volson.
RE: So who is that starter at LG? - fredtoast - 08-28-2022
(08-28-2022, 03:36 PM)Rubekahn29 Wrote: The fact Volson didn’t get in at all yesterday and took all number 1 snaps all week, it’s pretty safe to assume it’s Volson.
If Carman had not been out with Covid I would agree.
And I am not saying Volson is not the starter. I am just saying that I don't think Volson not playing proves he is the starter.
RE: So who is that starter at LG? - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 08-28-2022
(08-28-2022, 03:36 PM)Rubekahn29 Wrote: The fact Volson didn’t get in at all yesterday and took all number 1 snaps all week, it’s pretty safe to assume it’s Volson.
This. Volson will start at LG...
Hope he grows quickly. I think he will with good players in Jonah and Ted next to him.
Nothing against Carman, bad timing with the covid and he didn't play quite good enough. Carman was actually pretty good
yesterday besides the sack he gave up and the penalty. I thought Gilliam played pretty dang good and like I said in the other
thread, never even heard of him before. I heard from Munoz he started on the Stealers at one point so he must not be terrible.
RE: So who is that starter at LG? - bengals1969 - 08-28-2022
Yeah it’s coach speak. After the giants game I saw a vid of Zac talking about Volson’s performance. He said there were some positives.
Same question about Carman’s yesterday, one week later, and he said he’d have to watch the tape.
Common man! I think his reply is taking the road of saying nothing when not having anything good to say.
RE: So who is that starter at LG? - Rubekahn29 - 08-28-2022
(08-28-2022, 03:40 PM)fredtoast Wrote: If Carman had not been out with Covid I would agree.
And I am not saying Volson is not the starter. I am just saying that I don't think Volson not playing proves he is the starter.
Carman didn’t take a single 1st team rep this week and took almost all 2nd team, maybe some 3rd team. You don’t go from taking all 1st team (Volson) to not playing a single snap unless you have the job locked up. Plus Carman did not do himself any favors by continuing to show his major flaws against fringe players.
RE: So who is that starter at LG? - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 08-28-2022
(08-28-2022, 05:05 PM)Rubekahn29 Wrote: Carman didn’t take a single 1st team rep this week and took almost all 2nd team, maybe some 3rd team. You don’t go from taking all 1st team (Volson) to not playing a single snap unless you have the job locked up. Plus Carman did not do himself any favors by continuing to show his major flaws against fringe players.
True and I am a Carman backer. He really needs to work on his hand placement and balance.
Volson must of shown something late against Donald that the coaches loved and frustrated him, hence the Bengals helmet
to the head lol
RE: So who is that starter at LG? - Frank Booth - 08-28-2022
(08-28-2022, 04:29 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Nothing against Carman, bad timing with the covid and he didn't play quite good enough. Carman was actually pretty good
yesterday
Give it a rest, Nate
It’s not your fault
RE: So who is that starter at LG? - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 08-28-2022
(08-28-2022, 05:29 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: Give it a rest, Nate
It’s not your fault
Alright Frank lol
RE: So who is that starter at LG? - bengalfan74 - 08-28-2022
If Volson does start over Carman (I just want the best one no matter who it is) that's a pretty big and bad statement on Carman's career trajectory.
RE: So who is that starter at LG? - Mer - 08-28-2022
(08-28-2022, 05:15 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: True and I am a Carman backer. He really needs to work on his hand placement and balance.
Volson must of shown something late against Donald that the coaches loved and frustrated him, hence the Bengals helmet
to the head lol
Didn't Carman play Tackle in college? I don't understand why they haven't tried him at Tackle. I get that he hasn't panned out at Guard, but that doesn't necessarily mean he'll stink at tackle too. Wasn't Fred Johnson terrible at Guard but at least serviceable at Tackle? Maybe Carman can be a back up swing Tackle. Or maybe we could trade him to a Tackle desperate team and keep the guy from Pittsburgh. ( Can't believe I just wrote that)
RE: So who is that starter at LG? - Synric - 08-28-2022
Charmin is just so inconsistent with his technique. D'Ante Smith is more consistent but needs to be more aware of the play around him. Alot of Smith's issues are in mental.
RE: So who is that starter at LG? - Whatever - 08-28-2022
(08-28-2022, 05:56 PM)Mer Wrote: Didn't Carman play Tackle in college? I don't understand why they haven't tried him at Tackle. I get that he hasn't panned out at Guard, but that doesn't necessarily mean he'll stink at tackle too. Wasn't Fred Johnson terrible at Guard but at least serviceable at Tackle? Maybe Carman can be a back up swing Tackle. Or maybe we could trade him to a Tackle desperate team and keep the guy from Pittsburgh. ( Can't believe I just wrote that)
I think that will be the next move to try and salvage something out of the pick, especially with how bad Smith looked in preseason.
Pretty discouraging that they dropped so much draft capital on the OL in '21 and only Hill is showing any kind of promise.
RE: So who is that starter at LG? - Whatever - 08-28-2022
(08-28-2022, 06:06 PM)Synric Wrote: Charmin is just so inconsistent with his technique. D'Ante Smith is more consistent but needs to be more aware of the play around him. Alot of Smith's issues are in mental.
I kind of wonder if moving Carman to T to allow him to set up just a little bit further off the LoS will help him with his jump set issues.
RE: So who is that starter at LG? - Synric - 08-28-2022
(08-28-2022, 06:09 PM)Whatever Wrote: I kind of wonder if moving Carman to T to allow him to set up just a little bit further off the LoS will help him with his jump set issues.
Possibly he looks good when he quick sets (or angle if you wanna call it that).
RE: So who is that starter at LG? - Nicomo Cosca - 08-28-2022
(08-28-2022, 06:06 PM)Synric Wrote: Charmin is just so inconsistent with his technique. D'Ante Smith is more consistent but needs to be more aware of the play around him. Alot of Smith's issues are in mental.
Subconscious or intentional?
RE: So who is that starter at LG? - Synric - 08-28-2022
(08-28-2022, 06:22 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Subconscious or intentional?
Lol during the Bengals board fantasy draft my tablet autocorrected to Charmin... Perfect nickname.
RE: So who is that starter at LG? - Go Cards - 08-28-2022
If the player is on the roster presently then would think it would be Volson at this point but may change later.
Neither really look like they've seized anything just yet.
RE: So who is that starter at LG? - J24 - 08-28-2022
I don't think the player is currently on the roster as of right now.