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Week 4 PFF Analysis - Offensive Line - KillerGoose - 09-30-2022
I thought it would be interesting to have a thread to discuss the OL performance. During the game, I thought they did a fantastic job. I usually go through and re-watch the game with All-22 once it is out. PFF dropped their grades and stats today for the game and they don't appear to agree with what I saw. Here is the player-by-player breakdown...
Jonah Williams
Grade - 60.2 (PBLK = 70.8, RBLK = 49.5)
Pressures - 2
Hurries - 2
Hits - 0
Sacks - 0
Penalties - 0
Pressure % - 5.4%
Cordell Volson
Grade - 38.2 (PBLK = 24.2, RBLK = 44.8)
Pressures - 3
Hurries - 2
Hits - 0
Sacks - 1
Penalties - 1
Pressure % - 8.1%
Ted Karras
Grade - 47.5 (PBLK = 55.3, RBLK = 51.5)
Pressures - 3
Hurries - 3
Hits - 0
Sacks - 0
Penalties - 1
Pressure % - 8.1%
Alex Cappa
Grade - 47 (PBLK = 43.5, RBLK = 48)
Pressures - 2
Hurries - 0
Hits - 2
Sacks - 0
Penalties - 0
Pressure % - 5.4%
La'el Collins
Grade - 45 (PBLK = 35.5, RBLK = 48.5)
Pressures - 2
Hurries - 2
Hits - 0
Sacks - 0
Penalties - 1
Pressure % - 5.4%
PFF has panned the OL across the board aside from Jonah. Joe was getting rid of the ball quickly last night, so if they believe they aw issues, then perhaps that was masking it. Has anyone re-watched the game to watch the line? What are some other observations from last night around the OL?
RE: Week 4 PFF Analysis - Offensive Line - treee - 09-30-2022
I have basically written off PFF for lineman at this point. Last night was their best game so far this year.
RE: Week 4 PFF Analysis - Offensive Line - Nicomo Cosca - 09-30-2022
Burrow said it was the best pocket he’s had since entering the NFL. I get that PFF is focusing on each individual player more than the fans are, but those grades are hard to agree with. You’d think they were absolutely awful looking at those numbers.
RE: Week 4 PFF Analysis - Offensive Line - michaelsean - 09-30-2022
That's a bizarre score for them
RE: Week 4 PFF Analysis - Offensive Line - Sled21 - 09-30-2022
Phewffft.... PFF didn't get their check.
RE: Week 4 PFF Analysis - Offensive Line - MasonDT70 - 09-30-2022
Run blocking grades not being great, I could get behind a bit, but I didn't see major problems with pass pro. Looked like a solid game from the group overall
RE: Week 4 PFF Analysis - Offensive Line - Housh - 09-30-2022
(09-30-2022, 05:02 PM)treee Wrote: I have basically written off PFF for lineman at this point. Last night was their best game so far this year.
PFF ratings are a non factor imo. They graded everyone poorly and i have no idea why. Burrow escaped maybe 2 or 3 sacks but besides that i felt he had extraordinary time in the pocket. I think Burrow was a bit surprised because i counted 2 plays where he could’ve taken a deep shot but ended up checking it down
RE: Week 4 PFF Analysis - Offensive Line - KillerGoose - 09-30-2022
(09-30-2022, 05:24 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Phewffft.... PFF didn't get their check.
I tend to agree. I've never been a fan of their grades, there is too much subjectivity. Their stats are great and you can work from there to figure something out but the grades aren't very useful.
RE: Week 4 PFF Analysis - Offensive Line - BurrowTheGoat - 09-30-2022
I really want to know what PFF counts as a negative play because I watched the OL intently last night and no one was getting whopped. By pass blocking in the NFL standards most of them were doing well. I just don't get PFF to be honest.
RE: Week 4 PFF Analysis - Offensive Line - bengalfan74 - 09-30-2022
Like others have said I could understand their run blocking being a little low. But I can't believe they were that bad in pass pro.
RE: Week 4 PFF Analysis - Offensive Line - THE PISTONS - 09-30-2022
Games I think Volson sucks in, pff scores him him.
Games I think he looks good, they score him bad.
RE: Week 4 PFF Analysis - Offensive Line - Rubekahn29 - 09-30-2022
I don’t know if there are specific algorithms to their grades, but they generally feel subjective.
RE: Week 4 PFF Analysis - Offensive Line - tms - 09-30-2022
They're just trolling... Nothing to see here
RE: Week 4 PFF Analysis - Offensive Line - psychdoctor - 09-30-2022
The numbers don't seem that much improved from last year. In fact, it may be even worse.
RE: Week 4 PFF Analysis - Offensive Line - Housh - 09-30-2022
The pass block ratings are off.
I just watched every snap and we did very well in pass pro.
The run blocking was bad but it was bad mostly by Collins. I honestly did not notice any other lirnman being super trash in run blocking. The poor ratings i think have to be put on Mixon’s shoulders who robbed the line of maybe around 30 yards, but DEFINITELY robbed the line of another TD.
RE: Week 4 PFF Analysis - Offensive Line - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 09-30-2022
For the year:
Karas: 62.1
Cappa: 61.9
Jonah: 54.3
Collins: 52.9
Volson: 49.6
Rest of O:
Higgins: 82.1
Chase: 69.1
Burrow: 66.1
Boyd: 65.6
Hurst: 61.0
Mixon: 58.5
Defensive Starters:
Reader: 91.0
Hendrickson: 89.8
Hubbard: 76.6
Bell: 71.8
Hilton: 69.1
Awuzie: 67.4
Wilson: 64.7
Hill: 61.2
Apple: 60.4
Bates: 60.3
Pratt: 59.5
RE: Week 4 PFF Analysis - Offensive Line - Housh - 09-30-2022
When all 5 offensive lineman have poor run block grades but we can’t really point out many specific plays where anyone but Collins messed up that means the RB isn’t playing well. No way all 5 dudes are bad in the run game.
RE: Week 4 PFF Analysis - Offensive Line - rfaulk34 - 09-30-2022
(09-30-2022, 05:04 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Burrow said it was the best pocket he’s had since entering the NFL. I get that PFF is focusing on each individual player more than the fans are, but those grades are hard to agree with. You’d think they were absolutely awful looking at those numbers.
Those grades are bullshit.
RE: Week 4 PFF Analysis - Offensive Line - Joelist - 09-30-2022
Yet more proof that PFF is trash. When the QB has abundant time, doesn't even get hit a lot or really pressured and says himself that this was the best pass protection he's had as a pro then PFF craps all over the line you know PFF is at issue.
RE: Week 4 PFF Analysis - Offensive Line - Synric - 09-30-2022
(09-30-2022, 06:56 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: I tend to agree. I've never been a fan of their grades, there is too much subjectivity. Their stats are great and you can work from there to figure something out but the grades aren't very useful.
PFF Player Grades are for casual football fans. Now their analytics department is top notch and that's coming from a guy that hates football stats.