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Hispanic Woman Cannot Join Congressional Hispanic Caucus - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 10-27-2022 The title rather says it all, Mayra Flores, who is the first woman born in Mexico to serve in Congress was denied membership on the Hispanic Congressional Caucus. Not a good look for a caucus that was originally bipartisan. But, it's their choice, so fine. What should absolutely be required is that their name be changed immediately to the Democratic Hispanic Congressional Caucus. I guess the reality of Hispanics tracking GOP (something I said several years ago would happen) isn't sitting well with the Dems. As I said, it's their right to deny her membership, but damn if it doesn't make them look petty and bigoted. https://thehill.com/latino/3707920-texas-republican-says-she-was-denied-membership-in-hispanic-caucus/ RE: Hispanic Woman Cannot Join Congressional Hispanic Caucus - Belsnickel - 10-27-2022 I'm just against caucuses in general. But that's me. RE: Hispanic Woman Cannot Join Congressional Hispanic Caucus - Nately120 - 10-27-2022 I read this as Congressional Hispanic Circus. RE: Hispanic Woman Cannot Join Congressional Hispanic Caucus - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 10-27-2022 (10-27-2022, 08:36 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: I'm just against caucuses in general. But that's me. I would tend to agree. That being said, what's happening here is clearly wrong. (10-27-2022, 08:56 PM)Nately120 Wrote: I read this as Congressional Hispanic Circus. That's because you're clearly a racist. RE: Hispanic Woman Cannot Join Congressional Hispanic Caucus - GMDino - 10-27-2022 (10-27-2022, 07:35 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: The title rather says it all, Mayra Flores, who is the first woman born in Mexico to serve in Congress was denied membership on the Hispanic Congressional Caucus. Not a good look for a caucus that was originally bipartisan. But, it's their choice, so fine. What should absolutely be required is that their name be changed immediately to the Democratic Hispanic Congressional Caucus. I guess the reality of Hispanics tracking GOP (something I said several years ago would happen) isn't sitting well with the Dems. As I said, it's their right to deny her membership, but damn if it doesn't make them look petty and bigoted. Quote:Sebastian Roa, a spokesman for the CHC, responded that the CHC’s bylaws have been changed to only allow Democrats. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_Hispanic_Conference Quote:In the mid to late 1990s, the Republican members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus – Mexican-American Henry Bonilla of Texas and Cuban-Americans Ileana Ros-Lehtinen and Lincoln Díaz-Balart of Florida – left the Caucus in protest over its support for improved relations with Cuba.[4] While Ros-Lehtinen remained an active member of the CHC's public outreach arm, the Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute, the Caucus has since been composed solely of Democratic and Democratic-caucusing independent legislators.[5][6][url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_Hispanic_Conference#cite_note-8][/url] https://history.house.gov/Exhibitions-and-Publications/HAIC/Historical-Essays/Strength-Numbers/Caucus-Conference/ Quote:Congressional Hispanic Conference RE: Hispanic Woman Cannot Join Congressional Hispanic Caucus - Nately120 - 10-27-2022 (10-27-2022, 09:07 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: That's because you're clearly a racist. Well, while we're being racist let me ask if you think the Hispanic trend towards the GOP is a general thing or do you think it's more of a confounding/short-term variable given Trump's level of support from groups that tend towards lessened levels of higher education? Hispanics within the USA have the lowest level of education by ethnicity, but the GOP may have made more inroads with that demographic that go beyond Trump. RE: Hispanic Woman Cannot Join Congressional Hispanic Caucus - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 10-27-2022 (10-27-2022, 09:15 PM)GMDino Wrote: I always appreciate you making my point for me. If it's only for Democrats then it shouldn't be called the Congressional Hispanic Caucus. I know Democrats feel entitled to the votes of non-White people (also racist), but this deliberate mislabeling is not a good look. Hispanics don't belong to the Democratic party, much as they apparently wish otherwise. RE: Hispanic Woman Cannot Join Congressional Hispanic Caucus - StoneTheCrow - 10-27-2022 (10-27-2022, 09:18 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Well, while we're being racist let me ask if you think the Hispanic trend towards the GOP is a general thing or do you think it's more of a confounding/short-term variable given Trump's level of support from groups that tend towards lessened levels of higher education? “These ***** people keep calling us Latinx and breakfast tacos.” Edit: Also, has anything of note been going on in districts like Flores’ in recent history? RE: Hispanic Woman Cannot Join Congressional Hispanic Caucus - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 10-27-2022 (10-27-2022, 09:18 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Well, while we're being racist let me ask if you think the Hispanic trend towards the GOP is a general thing or do you think it's more of a confounding/short-term variable given Trump's level of support from groups that tend towards lessened levels of higher education? My friend, if you were talking to a current day liberal this post would have melted their mind and had them calling Al Sharpton on you. But, I completely understand what you're asking and will answer honestly. I've pointed out for years, well before 2016, that it was inevitable that Hispanics would start to trend GOP if the Dems continued their leftward shift. Now, I would point out that Hispanics only accurately describes Spanish speaking people, so it technically includes Spaniards as well (as an aside there was a hilarious take from some Twitter/TikTok idiot that white people were not allowed to speak Spanish because it's not "their language"), so this omits some people most would consider part of that category, e.g. Brazilians and people from Belize. That being said there are several, general, character traits that tend to apply to Hispanic families that don't mesh especially well with the current Dem positions. They tend to abhor socialism/communism, as the country their family fled to come to the US was either heavily one or the other, or they have relatives who suffered under such regimes. They tend to be more religious than the US as a whole, and within that trend Catholic. Hence abortion is an issue in which they are firmly in the GOP zone. They also tend to be traditionalists with a strong sense of family, which fits nicely with conservative "family values". An absolutely huge one, and the cause of the current acceleration of Hispanic GOP support IMO, is they also tend to come from areas that were highly corrupt and in which criminals tended to act with impunity. In this area especially the Dems are going to hemorrhage Hispanic voters in the next decade or so. The damage done to the criminal justice system, and law enforcement, by Dem overreactions and, in some cases open disdain for both, is going to make Hispanics trend more and more towards the GOP. Of course, that assumes something doesn't happen to radically change that, but that's always a consideration. Quite literally, the only Dem issue in which there is solid Hispanic support is immigration. Even on this issue there are sizeable numbers of Hispanics that are much more vehemently against illegal immigration than White people or other ethnic groups. I know hundreds of Hispanic people very well and they trend anti-illegal immigration about 80-20% against. So, the more extreme the Dems get on the above issues the more they are going to lose Hispanic support, and in a two party system that support really only has one outlet destination. While the above issues start to dilute the further away you get from the first generation immigrant they will remain strong enough to not significantly alter what I'm claiming. Full disclosure, I am not Hispanic and would never claim to speak for that group. But I have conversations with Hispanic people almost every day, I've learned a ton about Central and Southern American cultures, and what most people know about them in this country is a tiny fraction of what there is to know. My predictions on Hispanic political leanings have been rather solid to date and I see nothing to indicate that is about to change. RE: Hispanic Woman Cannot Join Congressional Hispanic Caucus - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 10-27-2022 (10-27-2022, 09:40 PM)StoneTheCrow Wrote: “These ***** people keep calling us Latinx and breakfast tacos.” I totally forgot about Latinx. Largely because the vast majority of Hispanics I know have never even heard the term. Yes, that's true in Los Angeles. The ones who have, or I've explained what it is to them, find it insulting to stupid. The vast majority think it's a white liberal attempt to bastardize their culture. Overall, it's a definite negative for Hispanics that I've talked to. RE: Hispanic Woman Cannot Join Congressional Hispanic Caucus - Nately120 - 10-27-2022 (10-27-2022, 09:41 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: My friend, if you were talking to a current day liberal this post would have melted their mind and had them calling Al Sharpton on you. But, I completely understand what you're asking and will answer honestly. I've pointed out for years, well before 2016, that it was inevitable that Hispanics would start to trend GOP if the Dems continued their leftward shift. Now, I would point out that Hispanics only accurately describes Spanish speaking people, so it technically includes Spaniards as well (as an aside there was a hilarious take from some Twitter/TikTok idiot that white people were not allowed to speak Spanish because it's not "their language"), so this omits some people most would consider part of that category, e.g. Brazilians and people from Belize. Thanks for the info. Makes sense they find that GOP façade of Christianity, family values, law and order, and capitalism for all/anyone can make it appealing. I'll double down on the internet racism and say their absurd fertility rate combined with our country trending towards outlawing abortion will have this country "pressing 2 for espanol" for ever more! Take THAT, conservatives! RE: Hispanic Woman Cannot Join Congressional Hispanic Caucus - StoneTheCrow - 10-27-2022 (10-27-2022, 09:58 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Thanks for the info. Makes sense they find that GOP façade of Christianity, family values, law and order, and capitalism for all/anyone can make it appealing. It’ll be “press 2 for English”. Equidad. RE: Hispanic Woman Cannot Join Congressional Hispanic Caucus - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 10-27-2022 (10-27-2022, 09:58 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Thanks for the info. Makes sense they find that GOP façade of Christianity, family values, law and order, and capitalism for all/anyone can make it appealing. Eh, that's a rather disingenuous take on my post. While you are free to claim the GOP only pays lip service to the topics I listed, the fact remains they are far more in sync with Hispanics on those issues that Dems, who clearly pay lip service to issues as well. Quote:I'll double down on the internet racism and say their absurd fertility rate combined with our country trending towards outlawing abortion will have this country "pressing 2 for espanol" for ever more! Take THAT, conservatives! Dude, I've lived in Southern California since 1986, you're talking decades ago for me. Luckily, I'm not a racist and want everyone who wants to legally become a US citizen and join the cause to be able to do so. Plus Hispanic women are hot as hell and I've dated more than my share of them. RE: Hispanic Woman Cannot Join Congressional Hispanic Caucus - Nately120 - 10-27-2022 (10-27-2022, 10:09 PM)StoneTheCrow Wrote: It’ll be “press 2 for English”. Equidad. They WILL replace us! Maybe the democrats can court the vote of people who fear whites becoming the minority now. (10-27-2022, 10:12 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Eh, that's a rather disingenuous take on my post. While you are free to claim the GOP only pays lip service to the topics I listed, the fact remains they are far more in sync with Hispanics on those issues that Dems, who clearly pay lip service to issues as well. I never said they should be voting D, I said that the current GOP's brand of BS should be right up their alley and admitting that it does seem to go beyond Trump. So yes, I admitted you had a point but I did so in a manner which trashes my least favorite political party...I'm a petty person. You could be racist and say I'm a standard mediocre white male with a fragile ego. I will admit I got a laugh at that second part, because I know you don't mean it this way BUT "I'm not a racist, I've boinked hispanic chicks" is an amusing statement. I'm not sure I ever checked them off my list in the halcyon days when I was youthful and semi-desirable. Side note, Indian chicks are pretty wacky in bed in my experience. RE: Hispanic Woman Cannot Join Congressional Hispanic Caucus - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 10-27-2022 (10-27-2022, 10:13 PM)Nately120 Wrote: I never said they should be voting D, I said that the current GOP's brand of BS should be right up their alley and admitting that it does seem to go beyond Trump. So yes, I admitted you had a point but I did so in a manner which trashes my least favorite political party...I'm a petty person. You could be racist and say I'm a standard mediocre white male with a fragile ego. Fair enough. As I stated, I "know" you well and your intentions, so I didn't take it as a negative. my comment was more for people reading who wouldn't be so familar. Admittedly not a large audience at this point. Quote:I will admit I got a laugh at that second part, because I know you don't mean it this way BUT "I'm not a racist, I've boinked hispanic chicks" is an amusing statement. I'm not sure I ever checked them off my list in the halcyon days when I was youthful and semi-desirable. Side note, Indian chicks are pretty wacky in bed in my experience. Nah, what I said was "I'm not racist AND I dig me some Hispanic chicks". Not the same thing. As for Indian woman, never had the pleasure myself, and I will sadly report that most of my experiences with them, especially an ex-land lord, were not good. But that's obviously not an indictment or description of Indian women as a whole. Seriously though, that land lord is probably the most vile human being I have ever dealt with, and I may include people I've dealt with professionally in that mix. RE: Hispanic Woman Cannot Join Congressional Hispanic Caucus - Nately120 - 10-27-2022 (10-27-2022, 10:31 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: As for Indian woman, never had the pleasure myself, and I will sadly report that most of my experiences with them, especially an ex-land lord, were not good. But that's obviously not an indictment or description of Indian women as a whole. Seriously though, that land lord is probably the most vile human being I have ever dealt with, and I may include people I've dealt with professionally in that mix. Should have tried to pay your rent with the milk of human kindness, or something. Sounds scintillating. RE: Hispanic Woman Cannot Join Congressional Hispanic Caucus - StoneTheCrow - 10-27-2022 (10-27-2022, 10:13 PM)Nately120 Wrote: They WILL replace us! What if, wait a minute, they ARE us? Uh oh. RE: Hispanic Woman Cannot Join Congressional Hispanic Caucus - NATI BENGALS - 10-27-2022 Well imo every Qanon spewing member of our government should sit in the corner with a dunce cap on until their term is over. If I was a leader of a cool kids club Mayra wouldn’t be invited to my club either. RE: Hispanic Woman Cannot Join Congressional Hispanic Caucus - StoneTheCrow - 10-27-2022 (10-27-2022, 10:57 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: Well imo every Qanon spewing member of our government should sit in the corner with a dunce cap on until their term is over. If I was a leader of a cool kids club Mayra wouldn’t be invited to my club either. SMH where has inclusivity gone amongst the progressive contingent? RE: Hispanic Woman Cannot Join Congressional Hispanic Caucus - Nately120 - 10-27-2022 (10-27-2022, 11:04 PM)StoneTheCrow Wrote: SMH where has inclusivity gone amongst the progressive contingent? They're all too busy sex trafficking and eating children to be inclusive these days, from what I understand. |