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Is The United States In Trouble? - BFritz21 - 06-22-2023 The average empire lasts 250 years. They normally collapse due to things like problems within the empire to become unstable and then it's usually invaded by outside forces. The United States will be 250 in a few years. We seem to be having turmoil and becoming unstable with things like culture wars and now things becoming chaotic with so many people suddenly identifying as transgender and even teachers pushing this on kids. The outside forces could be seen as Mexicans crossing the border illegally at such an alarming rate, which I'm not saying they'll try and overthrow the government, but it just costs the country a lot of money and makes us very unstable. We are becoming more and more in debt. Biden could very well be re-elected or, maybe even worse, Kamala could be elected and just chuckle us into hell because all these people vote on emotion and think letting men identify as women is more important than the economy, border, crime, and every other issue that keeps our country running. I've asked this before, but are we in trouble? RE: Is The United States In Trouble? - GMDino - 06-22-2023 (06-22-2023, 02:14 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: The average empire lasts 250 years. I thought we were in trouble in 80's. And I agree we've lasted longer than a lot of other countries/empires. There are a multitude of reasons to worry, but also reasons to hold out hope that we can weather those bad things and continue on. I don't believe we will collapse in my lifetime but I do worry about the kids. RE: Is The United States In Trouble? - BFritz21 - 06-22-2023 (06-22-2023, 02:23 PM)GMDino Wrote: I thought we were in trouble in 80's. And I agree we've lasted longer than a lot of other countries/empires. I'm hoping all this transgender stuff and all the other things fade into the abyss and we rebound. Transgender people tend to regret their decisions so many years after their transitions and it feels like it has only gotten so popular two(?) years ago. I do worry about the kids because of how many teachers seem to be trying to teach kids that, because they feel different or more masculine/feminine, that makes them the opposite sex. I've seen videos of teachers having parades with kids carrying pride flags through the hallways. Like you said, I also worry about the kids because their minds can be shaped before they're anywhere near developed enough to comprehend all that (average brain isn't fully developed until age 25). Hopefully, people start making decisions with their heads instead of emotions but my prediction is that Dems will just blame everything on Republicans and all these people that think they're animals and the opposite sex and one of 678 different genders will come out and vote Democrat. RE: Is The United States In Trouble? - Nately120 - 06-22-2023 Ida know...we could be in big trouble but the song "Eve Of Destruction" was a #1 58 years ago, so I feel like it's pretty much a given that people in this country spend their lives talking about the good ol' days and worrying about the future while simultaneously saying that kids today have it too easy. I won't even get political about it...it's just human nature to realize our mortality and convince ourselves we lived in the best of times to be alive and the days we won't be around to see won't be that great, so no big loss on taking our dirt naps. EDIT - Ok, I'm starting to see that this thread is leaning towards complaining about trans people so it seems pretty redundant. RE: Is The United States In Trouble? - Arturo Bandini - 06-22-2023 If it doesn't implode from inside no ... RE: Is The United States In Trouble? - KillerGoose - 06-22-2023 I am not convinced that we are in serious trouble yet, but I don't think we are heading in the right direction. The U.S. has a very high debt-to-GDP ratio, extreme political polarization, declining education and other things that we as a society should be concerned about. I don't think that the U.S. is going to have a catastrophic issue in my lifetime (30), but we have some major issues that I don't know that we are going to fix as a society. RE: Is The United States In Trouble? - GMDino - 06-22-2023 (06-22-2023, 02:41 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: I am not convinced that we are in serious trouble yet, but I don't think we are heading in the right direction. The U.S. has a very high debt-to-GDP ratio, extreme political polarization, declining education and other things that we as a society should be concerned about. I don't think that the U.S. is going to have a catastrophic issue in my lifetime (30), but we have some major issues that I don't know that we are going to fix as a society. My hope is that the generation after mine, my kids, can fix some this stuff once the boomers lose their grip. It's all cyclical and maybe it will swing the other way. RE: Is The United States In Trouble? - Arturo Bandini - 06-22-2023 (06-22-2023, 02:38 PM)Nately120 Wrote: EDIT - Ok, I'm starting to see that this thread is leaning towards complaining about trans people so it seems pretty redundant. Trans people are the new caravan who took the muslim place in the invisible fear agenda ... When it will be over, they'll find something else. RE: Is The United States In Trouble? - BengalYankee - 06-22-2023 (06-22-2023, 02:14 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: The average empire lasts 250 years. Yes. RE: Is The United States In Trouble? - BFritz21 - 06-22-2023 (06-22-2023, 02:38 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Ida know...we could be in big trouble but the song "Eve Of Destruction" was a #1 58 years ago, so I feel like it's pretty much a given that people in this country spend their lives talking about the good ol' days and worrying about the future while simultaneously saying that kids today have it too easy.Not going in a direction about trans people but it's about teachers indoctrinating kids and how that will negatively impact the future. It's also about order. Like I said, average empire lasts 250 years and our country seems to be imploding and being invaded. (06-22-2023, 02:41 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: I am not convinced that we are in serious trouble yet, but I don't think we are heading in the right direction. The U.S. has a very high debt-to-GDP ratio, extreme political polarization, declining education and other things that we as a society should be concerned about. I don't think that the U.S. is going to have a catastrophic issue in my lifetime (30), but we have some major issues that I don't know that we are going to fix as a society.Exactly, and, with money problems, more people will look for escapes with things like drugs and trying to identify as something they're not since they're not happy being themselves while being poor. (06-22-2023, 02:46 PM)BengalYankee Wrote: Yes. RE: Is The United States In Trouble? - Nately120 - 06-22-2023 (06-22-2023, 02:54 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: Not going in a direction about trans people but it's about teachers indoctrinating kids and how that will negatively impact the future. I said this decades ago, if teachers at the grade school, high school, and college level are dangerously liberal more conservatives need to get into education. And parents need to be more of a force in their kids lives than their teachers. Mine were. Weren't yours? My parents didn't sit around and wait for the government to make teachers less influential upon me, they did what they had to do themselves. RE: Is The United States In Trouble? - treee - 06-22-2023 (06-22-2023, 02:35 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: Transgender people tend to regret their decisions so many years after their transitions. Can you cite any statistics that back your claim up (not anecdotes)? RE: Is The United States In Trouble? - Lucidus - 06-22-2023 (06-22-2023, 02:35 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: I'm hoping all this transgender stuff and all the other things fade into the abyss and we rebound. If your statement asserting transgender regret is concerning gender affirming procedures, it's simply not supported by the data. They do not tend to experience regret, and those that do comprise an extremely miniscule percentage. The NIH provided the following meta-analysis in 2021: Results: A total of 27 studies, pooling 7928 transgender patients who underwent any type of GAS, were included. The pooled prevalence of regret after GAS was 1% (95% CI <1%–2%). Overall, 33% underwent transmasculine procedures and 67% transfemenine procedures. The prevalence of regret among patients undergoing transmasculine and transfemenine surgeries was <1% (IC <1%–<1%) and 1% (CI <1%–2%), respectively. A total of 77 patients regretted having had GAS. Twenty-eight had minor and 34 had major regret based on Pfäfflin’s regret classification. The majority had clear regret based on Kuiper and Cohen-Kettenis classification. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8099405/ RE: Is The United States In Trouble? - Lucidus - 06-22-2023 (06-22-2023, 02:54 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: Not going in a direction about trans people but it's about teachers indoctrinating kids and how that will negatively impact the future. Invaded by who exactly? People who are simply different than you? When you state that people are trying to identify as something they're not, you are asserting you know an individuals mind better than they do. How exactly do you determine someone's true internal identity? RE: Is The United States In Trouble? - GMDino - 06-22-2023 (06-22-2023, 03:52 PM)Lucidus Wrote: Invaded by who exactly? People who are simply different than you? I do know that Florida felt they were being "invaded" and now they are in a lot of trouble.. Quote:DeSantis anti-immigrant law sparks mass worker exodus in Florida Politicians are scrambling to tell immigrants not to worry about the law, just please stay and work. — Thomas Kennedy (@tomaskenn) June 5, 2023 RE: Is The United States In Trouble? - Nately120 - 06-22-2023 I can't help but notice that none of the people in that video complaining about the law are being murdered or raped by illegals. They should quit whining and thank Ron for looking out for them. Ingrates. RE: Is The United States In Trouble? - Lucidus - 06-22-2023 (06-22-2023, 04:04 PM)GMDino Wrote: I do know that Florida felt they were being "invaded" and now they are in a lot of trouble.. Mr. DeSantis has a rather unique proclivity for finding the most easily avoidable pile of dung and purposely diving into it headfirst. RE: Is The United States In Trouble? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 06-22-2023 (06-22-2023, 04:04 PM)GMDino Wrote: I do know that Florida felt they were being "invaded" and now they are in a lot of trouble.. It's not an anti-immigrant bill, it's an anti-illegal immigrant bill. There is a difference. Also, if you can't run a business without employing illegal labor then your business model isn't very good. RE: Is The United States In Trouble? - Millhouse - 06-22-2023 Are we in trouble, umm, to some extent yes but nothing that will do us in anytime soon. I do see three major problems though currently. The far left, the far right, and all of the propaganda news out there for both sides that fuels the division even more by getting people to see through a peephole to support positions that give them more ratings and/or views. RE: Is The United States In Trouble? - pally - 06-22-2023 Seriously, if you think transgenderism will crush American society you really don't understand history. First and foremost governments fail because of finances especially as the gap between the rich and poor grow. Americans are becoming uneasy because more and more can't afford housing, can't afford healthcare, can't afford college, can't afford to have children. In the meantime, the 1% keeps collecting more and more of the world's assets on the back of the working person Governments fail when they seek to restrict the rights of their citizens such as banning books or language, restricting education to only "approved" information, restricting entertainment, removing the autonomy of one's own bodies Governments fail when they try to force particular religious beliefs onto a diverse population. Look out here comes Christian Nationalism Governments fail when the population is denied access to the ballot box or when the outcome is predetermined. Gerrymandering, overly restrictive regulations, the majority making it more difficult for the minority to vote, losers not accepting the outcomes with NO evidence of wrong doing Governments fail when they try to dictate the moral behavior of the citizens Governments fail when the judiciary is biased Governments fail when they are far more concerned with the moral behavior (culture war) of their citizens than they are whether those citizens have food in their stomachs or a roof over their heads. No government has ever failed because adults were allowed to pursue love with the person of their choice. No government has ever failed because it openly and liberally educated their citizens No government has failed because it allowed open discussions of any topic No government has ever failed because it respected its citizen's rights to be themselves No government has ever failed because it allowed its citizens to worship or not worship in their own way No government has ever failed because it spent more time improving citizens' life instead on corporation's bottom lines |