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Beginning of the end, for Obamacare? - SunsetBengal - 12-04-2015 http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/senate-oks-republican-bill-unraveling-obama-health-care-law/ar-AAfYavO?ocid=spartandhp And, a possible end to funding for planned parenthood.. [quote"President Obama will have a choice," said Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky. "He can defend a status quo that's failed the middle class by vetoing the bill, or he can work toward a new beginning and better care by signing it." Republicans blame the bill for surging health care costs and insurers abandoning some markets. Government officials said this week that health care spending grew at 5.3 percent in 2014, the steepest climb since Obama took office. ][/quote] RE: Beginning of the end, for Obamacare? - GMDino - 12-04-2015 (12-04-2015, 12:11 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/senate-oks-republican-bill-unraveling-obama-health-care-law/ar-AAfYavO?ocid=spartandhp Quote:Democrats noted that under the law, millions of people have become insured and said their coverage has improved, with policies now required to insure a wide range of medical services. ![]() They probably wasted more tax money taking the time to pass (another) attempt to end the ACA. RE: Beginning of the end, for Obamacare? - bfine32 - 12-04-2015 (12-04-2015, 12:28 AM)GMDino Wrote: Anyone with any business acumen can plainly see that the money hasn't been wasted trying to end it; the money has been wasted trying to save it. How much have those defunct insurance start ups cost? RE: Beginning of the end, for Obamacare? - Benton - 12-04-2015 Republicans made sure it would be a cluster when they changed the payout formula. Basically, the system was designed so states would get reimbursed. Republicans changed formulas so states wouldn't get reimbursed. healthcare costs are out of control and the current system only continually escalates things. Republicans trying to secure their own well being are only making the problem worse by kicking the can down the road. RE: Beginning of the end, for Obamacare? - StLucieBengal - 12-04-2015 Was just about to post this. I like that they finally did something. Now maybe we can work on some bipartisan solutions on healthcare. Hopefully these potential solutions are focused at the state level. As for PP.... They don't need our money. They profit more than enough to cover their needs. RE: Beginning of the end, for Obamacare? - Au165 - 12-04-2015 I honestly don't care either way, I have health coverage and my costs have not increased all that much. My issue is we do need some sort of universal health care, and it's easy to trash someone elses idea, but I am waiting to see a better one. To kill it now, without an alternative plan, is just another party battle that is about political supremacy over actually doing something productive. RE: Beginning of the end, for Obamacare? - Benton - 12-04-2015 (12-04-2015, 01:32 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Was just about to post this. partisan solutions? That's a joke. Obamacare was Republican legislation the dems blocked in the 90s. You don't get more partisan than one aide putting up the other sides legislation. RE: Beginning of the end, for Obamacare? - Wyche'sWarrior - 12-04-2015 I have a fantastic idea.....why don't those useless sacks of shit in Washington vote to give us the insurance they use....you know, the one we already pay for, and they can sign up on their own with their own coin. Sounds likes a helluva idea to me. ![]() RE: Beginning of the end, for Obamacare? - StLucieBengal - 12-04-2015 (12-04-2015, 10:08 AM)Benton Wrote: partisan solutions? That's a joke. Obamacare was Republican legislation the dems blocked in the 90s. You don't get more partisan than one aide putting up the other sides legislation. Progressive plans are still progressive . A bipartisan plan now involves enough true conservatives in the house that a fair deal would be made. RE: Beginning of the end, for Obamacare? - oncemoreuntothejimbreech - 12-04-2015 (12-04-2015, 02:16 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Progressive plans are still progressive . Give me an idea of a health care plan which you don't believe is progressive. RE: Beginning of the end, for Obamacare? - Nately120 - 12-04-2015 Republicans spent 4 years promising Obama was going to be a one-term president, too. They need to deliver on these promises for me to trust them. RE: Beginning of the end, for Obamacare? - Nately120 - 12-04-2015 (12-04-2015, 03:22 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Give me an idea of a health care plan which you don't believe is progressive. I've noticed the 2 things that bother him the most are progressives, and people who haven't progressed and are archaic savages. RE: Beginning of the end, for Obamacare? - GMDino - 12-04-2015 (12-04-2015, 04:01 PM)Nately120 Wrote: I've noticed the 2 things that bother him the most are progressives, and people who haven't progressed and are archaic savages. ![]() RE: Beginning of the end, for Obamacare? - Benton - 12-04-2015 (12-04-2015, 02:16 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Progressive plans are still progressive . There are no more conservatives in this majority than there were in that majority. Rhetoric is rhetoric. RE: Beginning of the end, for Obamacare? - Benton - 12-04-2015 (12-04-2015, 02:11 PM)Wyche Wrote: I have a fantastic idea.....why don't those useless sacks of shit in Washington vote to give us the insurance they use....you know, the one we already pay for, and they can sign up on their own with their own coin. Sounds likes a helluva idea to me. The biggest reform that needs to be made is a federal public servant pay and benefit scale. And members of Congress should be on that. States have them for a good deal of the local offices. It's long overdue at the federal level, where elected officials have the same benefits as other federal employees, and their payscale is adjusted more in line with other federal employees. Hey, maybe since the GOP has the majority now they'll... oh... nevermind. RE: Beginning of the end, for Obamacare? - Nately120 - 12-04-2015 (12-04-2015, 05:39 PM)Benton Wrote: Hey, maybe since the GOP has the majority now they'll... oh... nevermind. Hmm, that sort of reminds me how as soon as Democrats had the White House and majority in Congress after Republicans had both Republicans were like "Woah wait, we totally have this awesome health care reform plan now...for serious!" RE: Beginning of the end, for Obamacare? - Benton - 12-04-2015 (12-04-2015, 05:53 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Hmm, that sort of reminds me how as soon as Democrats had the White House and majority in Congress after Republicans had both Republicans were like "Woah wait, we totally have this awesome health care reform plan now...for serious!" Dems with the majority weren't any better. I remember "Hey, we get elected, we'll get out of a ground war with the wrong people." Which, of course, has turned into multiple ground wars with the wrong people. RE: Beginning of the end, for Obamacare? - StLucieBengal - 12-04-2015 (12-04-2015, 03:22 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Give me an idea of a health care plan which you don't believe is progressive. End all health insurance. Everything is paid out of pocket. Prices would drop like a rock and doctors would be more focused on patient care like they used to be. You would see a lot more personal service from your doctor to keep your business. Big jump in concierge care. RE: Beginning of the end, for Obamacare? - StLucieBengal - 12-04-2015 (12-04-2015, 04:01 PM)Nately120 Wrote: I've noticed the 2 things that bother him the most are progressives, and people who haven't progressed and are archaic savages. Haha that is ironic . I don't mind progress . Just not progressing towards socialism. RE: Beginning of the end, for Obamacare? - StLucieBengal - 12-04-2015 (12-04-2015, 05:36 PM)Benton Wrote: There are no more conservatives in this majority than there were in that majority. 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