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The ride is just beginning .... - StLucieBengal - 12-06-2015 http://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/norwegian-govt.-seizes-5-children-from-parents-for-alleged-christian-indoct This is pretty insane. How can anyone allow the government to interfere this much. Quote:NAUSTDAL, Norway (ChurchMilitant.com) - A Christian family in Norway has lost its appeal to have its children returned, after the government forcibly removed five children from their home. The public is reacting with outrage. RE: The ride is just beginning .... - oncemoreuntothejimbreech - 12-07-2015 (12-06-2015, 11:00 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: http://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/norwegian-govt.-seizes-5-children-from-parents-for-alleged-christian-indoct Seems like a neighbor/neighbors noticed suspicious activity and notified the authorities who then intervened based upon the tip. RE: The ride is just beginning .... - GMDino - 12-07-2015 (12-07-2015, 01:45 AM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Seems like a neighbor/neighbors noticed suspicious activity and notified the authorities who then intervened based upon the tip. We should withhold all guesses and conclusions until we know all the facts. I just don't understand why the OP doesn't care about the victims just to make a political point. RE: The ride is just beginning .... - Belsnickel - 12-07-2015 There has been a controversy over this for quite a while. Interesting that it took this incident rather than the Indian family it happened to in order to raise the issue here. RE: The ride is just beginning .... - Au165 - 12-07-2015 Here is the problem, I am looking around for a real news site (one that isn't religious or political based) mentioning this story and I am finding very little. Even the religious/political ones all seem to be pointing back at this very story you posted in the OP. The Facebook campaigns all seem to be centered around this as well. I'm not saying it isn't true, but I'd like to find another source to corroborate this before going crazy. This has already been to a trial, which means there should be some actual court documents out there, but I can't find anything. RE: The ride is just beginning .... - BmorePat87 - 12-07-2015 Sounds like people took Lucie's advice of alerting the government over suspicious behavior. This wouldn't have been an issue if the family assimilated to the culture of the country. RE: The ride is just beginning .... - Belsnickel - 12-07-2015 (12-07-2015, 10:01 AM)Au165 Wrote: Here is the problem, I am looking around for a real news site (one that isn't religious or political based) mentioning this story and I am finding very little. Even the religious/political ones all seem to be pointing back at this very story you posted in the OP. The Facebook campaigns all seem to be centered around this as well. I'm not going to bother drudging up all the stuff, but this has been an issue for a while now where their version of CPS has been rather overreaching in the eyes of the public. There have been a number of instances, some making it to the court systems. The government has been insensitive to cultural issues of a variety of cultures, so attempts to say they are singling out this particular group are misleading. RE: The ride is just beginning .... - fredtoast - 12-07-2015 (12-07-2015, 10:08 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Sounds like people took Lucie's advice of alerting the government over suspicious behavior. This wouldn't have been an issue if the family assimilated to the culture of the country. Rep. Why don't these people just move to another place where their beliefs would be more accepted? Also pretty sure there is a lot more to this story. We are only hearing one side. I can guarantee that not every Christian Family in Norway is having their children taken away. Here in the US we are struggling with cases where innocent children die because of their parents religious beliefs. It is a tough situation. There needs to be a line drawn some where, but how do you respect the parents religious beliefs and still protect the children. RE: The ride is just beginning .... - Au165 - 12-07-2015 (12-07-2015, 10:31 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: I'm not going to bother drudging up all the stuff, but this has been an issue for a while now where their version of CPS has been rather overreaching in the eyes of the public. There have been a number of instances, some making it to the court systems. The government has been insensitive to cultural issues of a variety of cultures, so attempts to say they are singling out this particular group are misleading. Are you that versed in Norwegian family law matters? RE: The ride is just beginning .... - StLucieBengal - 12-07-2015 (12-07-2015, 08:41 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: There has been a controversy over this for quite a while. Interesting that it took this incident rather than the Indian family it happened to in order to raise the issue here. Not aware of the Indian family. But was aware of the German famly this happened to and they asked for asylum and were denied by Obama admin. RE: The ride is just beginning .... - GMDino - 12-07-2015 (12-07-2015, 11:45 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Not aware of the Indian family. But was aware of the German famly this happened to and they asked for asylum and were denied by Obama admin. Well they should stay in Europe. We don't need refugees here. RE: The ride is just beginning .... - StLucieBengal - 12-07-2015 (12-07-2015, 10:08 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Sounds like people took Lucie's advice of alerting the government over suspicious behavior. This wouldn't have been an issue if the family assimilated to the culture of the country. Yes just what we need the principle telling parents the government should give you lessons on raising your kid. RE: The ride is just beginning .... - Au165 - 12-07-2015 (12-07-2015, 11:47 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Yes just what we need the principle telling parents the government should give you lessons on raising your kid. The letter I read (from the brother) said the girls were running around saying the parents beating them, and generally were saying weird things at school which started this whole thing. It sounds like from the brothers letter I have been able to find, that the radical religion thing was a secondary comment and wasn't the direct influence in calling the protective services. RE: The ride is just beginning .... - fredtoast - 12-07-2015 (12-07-2015, 11:47 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Yes just what we need the principle telling parents the government should give you lessons on raising your kid. It is impossible to tell what is going on in the case you cited because we only have one side of the story, but I 100% agree that sometimes it is in the best interests of the children to remove them from their parents. Children should not suffer because they have bad parents. RE: The ride is just beginning .... - StLucieBengal - 12-07-2015 (12-07-2015, 11:46 AM)GMDino Wrote: Well they should stay in Europe. We don't need refugees here. They actually couldn't because of the EU. They were in Tennessee for some time until they were deported back to Germany where the government was ready to seize their children . All because they wanted to home school. And just did a little search i saw they won the court case to stay in the Memphis area. RE: The ride is just beginning .... - StLucieBengal - 12-07-2015 (12-07-2015, 11:54 AM)fredtoast Wrote: It is impossible to tell what is going on in the case you cited because we only have one side of the story, but I 100% agree that sometimes it is in the best interests of the children to remove them from their parents. Children should not suffer because they have bad parents. Religion should never be a reason to remove children. This principle was way outta line and this is just another reason why no one should trust the government. RE: The ride is just beginning .... - michaelsean - 12-07-2015 I don't think someone reporting something is the problem. I'd say the taking of the children from the home is the problem if this article is accurate. RE: The ride is just beginning .... - GMDino - 12-07-2015 (12-07-2015, 11:58 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Religion should never be a reason to remove children. This principle was way outta line and this is just another reason why no one should trust the government. Even if they are dirty, savage Muslims who pull their children out of school by their hair? RE: The ride is just beginning .... - StLucieBengal - 12-07-2015 (12-07-2015, 12:12 PM)GMDino Wrote: Even if they are dirty, savage Muslims who pull their children out of school by their hair? What you are giving an example of is physical child abuse. So yes is a parent physically abuses their child then there should be consequences . Not sure what this has to do with the gov taking children from parents because they were too christian. .... Oh yeah you were trying to make this about brown people. RE: The ride is just beginning .... - fredtoast - 12-07-2015 (12-07-2015, 11:58 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Religion should never be a reason to remove children. If it puts the children in danger then it should. Adults can chose a religion that involves handling snakes, drinking strychnine, blowing themselves up, female castration, or not seeking a doctors help when they are dying, but children should not be placed in that type of danger. |