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RE: Israel/Hamas War Superthread - GMDino - 04-28-2024 (04-28-2024, 05:33 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Eh, just highly skeptical of how and when these dudes show up and then disappear from the news cycle entirely for months. I guess this is one of the areas where I'm more cynical than you. I am aware of similar things done here, obviously not on the same scale, so please forgive my indulging in this. It wasn't that long ago that espousing the lab leak theory for Covid was considered a tin foil hate conspiracy. You're response wasn't just "skeptical" it was full conspiracy theory. I don't know if you were pushing the lab leak for Covid or not, but that's still a helluva stretch to get to this being a false flag. RE: Israel/Hamas War Superthread - Dill - 04-28-2024 (04-28-2024, 03:41 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Yes, this march was fake. Gave it a think. Tried to imagine scores of Feds getting orders and coordinating to imitate white supremacists to, what, help Biden? Or pro-Palestine protests? Without alarming Republican feds? Closest I could come was imagining right wing feds joining such a group and marching off duty. Maybe military and local law enforcement in the group too. Wouldn't the local police have to be in on it? They arrested some and removed their hoods. No one can get their names? https://www.newsweek.com/white-supremacist-patriot-front-marches-through-city-videos-1894937 Opps, nevermind. the first video was from another event in Idaho. But if you look at the accompanying Twitter video, there are definitely some bellies. RE: Israel/Hamas War Superthread - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 04-28-2024 (04-28-2024, 06:27 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: I just don't tolerate conspiracy theories all that well. I know the way things spread around Washington; I know way too many staffers and bureaucrats in DC and have heard far too many things. Something at the level you are suggesting for Patriot Front to be a false flag operation would require way more people to be read in than would be critical mass for it to be contained. Really, when you think about it, my disbelief in conspiracy theories really boils down to my cynicism towards our government. I just don't believe them capable of pulling something like that off and keeping it quiet. I can't really argue with this position in general. What I can say is that I did not come to be skeptical of this group overnight. Why do they appear out of nowhere and then disappear, both from the site of their protest but also the news cycle? When a fair number of them were arrested in Idaho I noticed, and I believe I pointed this out here, that they were all sitting in cuffs with their masks still on. With one exception, who was up against a patrol car. Literally the first thing I'm doing if I arrest someone with a mask on, after they are secured, is removing their mask. There were booking photos released, and then, again, it completely dropped off the radar. With as much as the media loves to report on white supremacists why do they become such a non-story so quickly? I don't know, man, it's just really odd to me. I can tell you first hand that I get accused of making up the pre-booking diversion program in LA County by people who refuse to believe criminals can commit crime and not even be booked. No booking means no public record. It's entirely done in house. And I doubt you'd be surprised how much those numbers get manipulated. I'm also aware from friends in probation and parole how much they are not allowed to do their job, but publicly the government reports no difference in how either functions. I'm just been privy to too much first hand knowledge of the government flat out lying to people to trust them at all anymore. Sad state of affairs to be sure. Regardless it's not the topic of the thread, so I'll leave it at that. RE: Israel/Hamas War Superthread - StoneTheCrow - 04-29-2024 (04-27-2024, 10:40 AM)StoneTheCrow Wrote: I’ve seen outlets refer to him as a leader of the protest. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/04/29/gaza-college-campus-protests-republicans-attack-biden-chaos/ They did the thing. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ RE: Israel/Hamas War Superthread - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 04-29-2024 (04-29-2024, 10:25 AM)StoneTheCrow Wrote: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/04/29/gaza-college-campus-protests-republicans-attack-biden-chaos/ Here's an archived version for those who can't bypass the paywall. https://archive.ph/KM2mn RE: Israel/Hamas War Superthread - GMDino - 04-29-2024 (04-29-2024, 10:25 AM)StoneTheCrow Wrote: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/04/29/gaza-college-campus-protests-republicans-attack-biden-chaos/ I'd just like to point out that Soros must be slacking as not all those tents are the same. RE: Israel/Hamas War Superthread - Luvnit2 - 04-29-2024 (04-29-2024, 10:39 AM)GMDino Wrote: I'd just like to point out that Soros must be slacking as not all those tents are the same. Your attempt to deflect once again fails. Why do you support protestors calling for Jews to be killed and eliminated from the face of the earth. Are you Omar's brother/Husband? RE: Israel/Hamas War Superthread - GMDino - 04-29-2024 (04-29-2024, 11:04 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Your attempt to deflect once again fails. Why do you support protestors calling for Jews to be killed and eliminated from the face of the earth. I do not support protestors calling for Jews to be killed and eliminated from the face of the earth. If you can find a single post where I cheered them or or said they were right please share it. Please learn how to take a joke about the conspiracy theories behind some of these protests. Are you Netanyahu? RE: Israel/Hamas War Superthread - StoneTheCrow - 04-29-2024 (04-29-2024, 10:39 AM)GMDino Wrote: I'd just like to point out that Soros must be slacking as not all those tents are the same. You know it’s STANKY over there. RE: Israel/Hamas War Superthread - Belsnickel - 04-29-2024 (04-29-2024, 11:36 AM)StoneTheCrow Wrote: You know it’s STANKY over there. I mean, tent living in general is. I have lived in tents for a varied number of days, from two day to nine weeks. It is never pleasant smelling. RE: Israel/Hamas War Superthread - GMDino - 04-29-2024 (04-29-2024, 11:36 AM)StoneTheCrow Wrote: You know it’s STANKY over there. I graduated college over 30 years ago. We didn't have AC units in dorms built 30 years before that. It was stanky THEN! I can't imagine what this kind of encampment is like hygiene wise. I wonder if that plays against the stereotype of the protestors this time? RE: Israel/Hamas War Superthread - StoneTheCrow - 04-29-2024 (04-29-2024, 11:41 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: I mean, tent living in general is. I have lived in tents for a varied number of days, from two day to nine weeks. It is never pleasant smelling. I tent camp for 2-3 nights usually at some land we have a few times a year. The shower upon return to civilization is top shelf. 9 weeks, hope you were putting the baby wipes to use. RE: Israel/Hamas War Superthread - Dill - 04-30-2024 Too little, too late. US finds Israeli units committed human rights abuses before Gaza war https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/29/idf-human-rights-violation-gaza-us-state-department The US has found five units of the Israeli security forces responsible for gross violations of human rights, over incidents in the West Bank before the current Gaza war, the state department has said. The findings come at a time when Israel is facing potential accountability from the international criminal court and the state department for its conduct of the conflict in Gaza, in which more than 34,000 people have been killed. The units found to be involved in abuses in the West Bank are mostly from the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) but include at least one police unit. They have not been sanctioned, however, the state department said. People mourn the death of a loved one US accused of failing to act on reports of abuse by Israeli forces Four of the units were judged to have carried out effective remedial action after the US state department shared its findings with Israel. RE: Israel/Hamas War Superthread - GMDino - 04-30-2024 https://www.irishtimes.com/world/middle-east/2024/04/25/gazans-venting-anger-against-hamas-in-wake-of-death-and-destruction/ Quote:Gazans venting anger against Hamas in wake of death and destruction RE: Israel/Hamas War Superthread - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 04-30-2024 (04-30-2024, 08:30 PM)GMDino Wrote: https://www.irishtimes.com/world/middle-east/2024/04/25/gazans-venting-anger-against-hamas-in-wake-of-death-and-destruction/ Very heartening to see. It rather runs contrary to your narrative thus far, but I'm sure even you would see this as a net positive. Declining to enable extremists on both sides actually makes a peaceful resolution a possibility. Take note college students. RE: Israel/Hamas War Superthread - GMDino - 04-30-2024 (04-30-2024, 09:24 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Very heartening to see. It rather runs contrary to your narrative thus far, but I'm sure even you would see this as a net positive. Declining to enable extremists on both sides actually makes a peaceful resolution a possibility. Take note college students. My narrative that the civilians don't want war and to be slaughtered? Or my narrative that the majority don't support Hamas? Which of my narratives did that story "run contrary" to? RE: Israel/Hamas War Superthread - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 04-30-2024 (04-30-2024, 10:39 PM)GMDino Wrote: My narrative that the civilians don't want war and to be slaughtered? Or my narrative that the majority don't support Hamas? That Hamas is a justified response to the oppression of Israel, not a continued version of the antisemitisim that has been expressed by Israel's neighbors since its refounding in 1948. Or maybe that was your friend, you guys get hard to tell apart. If I am mistaken I do humbly apologize. RE: Israel/Hamas War Superthread - Luvnit2 - 05-01-2024 (04-29-2024, 11:15 AM)GMDino Wrote: I do not support protestors calling for Jews to be killed and eliminated from the face of the earth. If you can find a single post where I cheered them or or said they were right please share it. I would think you would see the obvious, these students are being funded and influenced by far left groups. The F.B.I. should be doing a huge investigation including collecting cell phone data from these college protest sites. They did it on Jan. 6 with conservatives, I would argue what is happening in multiple sites far exceeds the capital riots. It is a civil rights violation to go after Jews and not allow them to walk down a campus sidewalk or go to class. Where is the F.B.I.? Why does NYC arrest students and never charge them? Is Bragg and James a part of the anti-sematic protestors and thus protecting them? Would they release conservative protestors who damaged property and held 3 people hostage? We all know the answer and so do the voters, one justice for conservatives and no justice applied to Democrats in liberal run cities and states. RE: Israel/Hamas War Superthread - GMDino - 05-01-2024 Oh. <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> RE: Israel/Hamas War Superthread - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 05-01-2024 Back to the actual topic. Unlike some people here this woman can answer the question of whether they consider Hamas terrorists or freedom fighters.
Hamas are "freedom fighters" and what they did on 10/07/23 was a good thing. All the while the crowd cheering. Nothing pro-Hamas about these protests at all. |