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They (AI) Took Our Jobs - NATI BENGALS - 01-16-2024 I'm not the only one who thinks AI taking jobs could be a problem. https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/15/imf-warns-ai-to-hit-almost-40percent-of-global-employment-worsen-inequality.html "The International Monetary Fund warned that nearly 40% of jobs across the globe could be affected by the rise of artificial intelligence, with high-income economies facing greater risks than emerging markets and low-income countries." https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/13/tech/tech-layoffs-ai-investment/index.html "Goldman Sachs economists said in a research note last March that as many as 300 million full-time jobs around the world could be lost or diminished by the rise of generative AI technology and that white-collar workers appeared to be most at risk." RE: They (AI) Took Our Jobs - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 01-16-2024 I've been arguing for years on this board that a second "industrial revolution" was imminent and that the loss of jobs would be equal, or worse than it was then. I frequently cited truck drivers, a huge employment sector, as being on the block for automation. This is also why I've consistently argued against the "we need immigrants to do these jobs" justification for mass immigration. Much sooner than we'd like to think the job pool is going to shrink and the mass importation of unskilled to semi-skilled laborers is going to be a millstone around our necks. RE: They (AI) Took Our Jobs - Nately120 - 01-16-2024 Wouldn't surprise me if when Trump dies 75+ million voters say we should run his entire persona into AI and then make AI Trump the president. Just make AI videos and consult AI for his policies, and then use a hologram for his in person rallies and stuff. RE: They (AI) Took Our Jobs - Matt_Crimson - 01-17-2024 (01-16-2024, 02:23 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: I've been arguing for years on this board that a second "industrial revolution" was imminent and that the loss of jobs would be equal, or worse than it was then. I frequently cited truck drivers, a huge employment sector, as being on the block for automation. This is also why I've consistently argued against the "we need immigrants to do these jobs" justification for mass immigration. Much sooner than we'd like to think the job pool is going to shrink and the mass importation of unskilled to semi-skilled laborers is going to be a millstone around our necks. Nonsense. More AI just means more military jobs for everyone!! Hey, wait a minute...... RE: They (AI) Took Our Jobs - Arturo Bandini - 01-17-2024 I'm OK with it. We are human beings not human doings. RE: They (AI) Took Our Jobs - NATI BENGALS - 01-18-2024 (01-17-2024, 05:34 PM)Arturo Bandini Wrote: I'm OK with it. We are human beings not human doings. Can't wait. As long as it's like this And not this RE: They (AI) Took Our Jobs - NATI BENGALS - 01-18-2024 (01-16-2024, 02:23 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: I've been arguing for years on this board that a second "industrial revolution" was imminent and that the loss of jobs would be equal, or worse than it was then. I frequently cited truck drivers, a huge employment sector, as being on the block for automation. This is also why I've consistently argued against the "we need immigrants to do these jobs" justification for mass immigration. Much sooner than we'd like to think the job pool is going to shrink and the mass importation of unskilled to semi-skilled laborers is going to be a millstone around our necks. It would be nice if it went back to one person working an average every day job being able to afford a decent living with a car, house, and family. I feel like those types of family situations are few and far between. If they made a come back maybe it would ease what could potentially become an over crowded labor market. But that still probably won't be enough. I think we can become so efficient at producing goods with smarter better machines while robots take over service jobs I just don't see how that ends with everyone happy and gainfully employed. Then again there could be the need for plenty of manual labor. https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/crop-killing-weeds-advance-across-us-farmland-chemicals-lose-effectiveness-2024-01-16/ Or maybe not RE: They (AI) Took Our Jobs - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 01-18-2024 (01-18-2024, 05:21 AM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: It would be nice if it went back to one person working an average every day job being able to afford a decent living with a car, house, and family. I feel like those types of family situations are few and far between. If they made a come back maybe it would ease what could potentially become an over crowded labor market. But that still probably won't be enough. I think we can become so efficient at producing goods with smarter better machines while robots take over service jobs I just don't see how that ends with everyone happy and gainfully employed. I don't know that you're appreciating the scope of the jobs that will be lost due to AI and further automation. I cited truck drivers for a reason, as it's a massive blue collar job sector. https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2019/06/america-keeps-on-trucking.html There are more than 3.5 million truckers in the US. In just that one industry alone you're talking a catastrophic loss of jobs. Basically any job that doesn't rely heavily on human judgment, e.g. criminal justice jobs, is on the table as far as going bye bye. I wholeheartedly agree with you. it would be great if we could return to the single worker family that can afford to buy a house and live a modest life. But those days are gone, both political parties sold us out to cheap foreign, sometimes slave, labor. What's coming is going to be decidedly unpleasant. RE: They (AI) Took Our Jobs - Synric - 01-18-2024 In 1995 Star Trek Deep Space Nine had a 2 part episode called "Past Tense". They travel back in time to 2024 and see how the World was dealing with racisim, violence, and job shortages because of technology. They had Sanctuary sections in the cities for the homeless etc.. Talk about foreshadowing... RE: They (AI) Took Our Jobs - SunsetBengal - 01-18-2024 (01-18-2024, 05:21 AM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: It would be nice if it went back to one person working an average every day job being able to afford a decent living with a car, house, and family. I feel like those types of family situations are few and far between. If they made a come back maybe it would ease what could potentially become an over crowded labor market. But that still probably won't be enough. I think we can become so efficient at producing goods with smarter better machines while robots take over service jobs I just don't see how that ends with everyone happy and gainfully employed You can still have that. If more workers would stand up, unionize, and have the backbone to fight for fair treatment from the faceless, profit squeezing corporations, even more people would enjoy a better quality of life. https://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/uaw-workers-approve-allison-transmission-deal-with-average-wage-growth-of-38-6/article_522fab06-b577-11ee-8642-fbd049631047.html Quote:United Auto Workers union members overwhelmingly voted to approve a deal at Allison Transmission in Indianapolis. RE: They (AI) Took Our Jobs - Nately120 - 01-18-2024 (01-18-2024, 02:11 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: You can still have that. If more workers would stand up, unionize, and have the backbone to fight for fair treatment from the faceless, profit squeezing corporations, even more people would enjoy a better quality of life. Carter and Mondale got their asses kicked, it's been over my entire life. RE: They (AI) Took Our Jobs - SunsetBengal - 01-18-2024 (01-18-2024, 04:03 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Carter and Mondale got their asses kicked, it's been over my entire life. I'll be Carter was really popular once had that revelation; "You know what, maybe we ought to be paying those peanut pickers union scale?".. RE: They (AI) Took Our Jobs - Nately120 - 01-18-2024 (01-18-2024, 04:08 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I'll be Carter was really popular once had that revelation; "You know what, maybe we ought to be paying those peanut pickers union scale?".. Hell if I know, my whole life the American way has been to demonize anything that would inconvenience the job creators and wait for it to all trickle down. Oh, and if you get bored waiting for it to tickle down, have you thought about obsessing over organized religion and/or abortion? RE: They (AI) Took Our Jobs - NATI BENGALS - 01-18-2024 (01-18-2024, 02:11 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: You can still have that. If more workers would stand up, unionize, and have the backbone to fight for fair treatment from the faceless, profit squeezing corporations, even more people would enjoy a better quality of life. I’ve got a pretty good union job now. But I see threats to it and other good union jobs. Like Ai, automation, and corporate greed. But I’m in a trade so I think I should personally be safe and have job security until retirement age. One of the bigger threats. Is at the top of richest person in the world lists and even bought a social media website that helps him control some of the narrative in this country and around the world. And he has recently seemed to grow in popularity with right wingers. Musk “I disagree with the idea of unions.” https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/dec/20/elon-musk-unions-tesla RE: They (AI) Took Our Jobs - NATI BENGALS - 01-28-2024 I could see the restaurant robots taking over really fast. RE: They (AI) Took Our Jobs - kalibengal - 01-29-2024 (01-16-2024, 02:41 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Wouldn't surprise me if when Trump dies 75+ million voters say we should run his entire persona into AI and then make AI Trump the president. Just make AI videos and consult AI for his policies, and then use a hologram for his in person rallies and stuff. please dont plant this perpetual nightmare into my head! SO ready to not have to hear about this fool RE: They (AI) Took Our Jobs - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 01-29-2024 (01-18-2024, 05:14 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: I’ve got a pretty good union job now. Trades are definitely one of the last bricks that will fall. As I stated earlier I think human judgment jobs, e.g. the criminal justice field, are going to be safe as well. I don't think many people would be comfortable with an AI making decisions about people's freedom. As for Musk, dude, give up the left wing boogeymaning of that guy. He's far from perfect, but of all the billionaires he generally seems concerned with the future of the human race. Bezos is far more sinister, yet he received virtually no press coverage. I'm far from a Musk jockrider (although the usual suspects will leap on this, confusing trying to view him in a balanced/nuanced way as being a diehard supporter) but the vilification of that guy since he brought Twitter just reeks of organized character assassination. RE: They (AI) Took Our Jobs - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 01-29-2024 (01-28-2024, 07:15 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: I could see the restaurant robots taking over really fast. Especially when you mandate $20 an hour for the humans doing the same job. RE: They (AI) Took Our Jobs - NATI BENGALS - 01-29-2024 (01-29-2024, 12:20 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Trades are definitely one of the last bricks that will fall. As I stated earlier I think human judgment jobs, e.g. the criminal justice field, are going to be safe as well. I don't think many people would be comfortable with an AI making decisions about people's freedom. As for Musk, dude, give up the left wing boogeymaning of that guy. He's far from perfect, but of all the billionaires he generally seems concerned with the future of the human race. Bezos is far more sinister, yet he received virtually no press coverage. I'm far from a Musk jockrider (although the usual suspects will leap on this, confusing trying to view him in a balanced/nuanced way as being a diehard supporter) but the vilification of that guy since he brought Twitter just reeks of organized character assassination. To any middle class working person. The richest man in the world going after labor unions in multiple countries around the world should be concerning. RE: They (AI) Took Our Jobs - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 01-29-2024 (01-29-2024, 02:28 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: To any middle class working person. The richest man in the world going after labor unions in multiple countries around the world should be concerning. I think you're grossly overstating the scope of the issue. As your own thread would indicate, AI is a far, far greater threat to the middle class than Musk could ever be, by an exponential amount. |