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Three US soldiers killed and up to 34 injured in drone attack. - Matt_Crimson - 01-28-2024 Thoughts? https://www.reuters.com/world/biden-says-three-us-service-members-killed-drone-attack-us-forces-jordan-2024-01-28/ Quote:Three US troops killed, up to 34 injured in Jordan drone strike linked to Iran RE: Three US soldiers killed and up to 34 injured in drone attack. - Matt_Crimson - 01-28-2024 What's interesting is Reuters cuts out part of Senator Tom Cotton's quote. In the Reueters article he's quoted as saying,"The only answer to these attacks must be devastating military retaliation against Iran’s terrorist forces ... Anything less will confirm Joe Biden as a coward," said Republican Senator Tom Cotton in a statement." But what he actually said in full was, “The only answer to these attacks must be devastating military retaliation against Iran’s terrorist forces, both in Iran and across the Middle East. Anything less will confirm Joe Biden as a coward unworthy of being commander in chief". That's a significantly different quote. RE: Three US soldiers killed and up to 34 injured in drone attack. - StoneTheCrow - 01-28-2024 “I’ve already delivered the message to Iran. They know not to do anything.” -Joe Biden two weeks ago. RE: Three US soldiers killed and up to 34 injured in drone attack. - TheLeonardLeap - 01-28-2024 Most likely response? Some sanctions on people in Iran and increased interdiction of Iranian ships suspected of smuggling weapons. A large portion of our Navy is already over in that region so it's the quickest response. Don't see them doing anything stronger and more decisive/riskier. Maybe also putting a defense system in Jordan. RE: Three US soldiers killed and up to 34 injured in drone attack. - JustWinBaby - 01-28-2024 (01-28-2024, 06:28 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Most likely response? Some sanctions on people in Iran and increased interdiction of Iranian ships suspected of smuggling weapons. A large portion of our Navy is already over in that region so it's the quickest response. This is one of those decisions you dread having to make as POTUS. But seems like Iran has been testing most every POTUS in this regard. Didn't Clinton lob some missiles in there? Seems like Trump did as well, when a lot of people thought his response was provocative. I think Obama had to make a similar call, too. RE: Three US soldiers killed and up to 34 injured in drone attack. - JustWinBaby - 01-28-2024 (01-28-2024, 04:45 PM)Matt_Crimson Wrote: What's interesting is Reuters cuts out part of Senator Tom Cotton's quote. In the Reueters article he's quoted as saying,"The only answer to these attacks must be devastating military retaliation against Iran’s terrorist forces ... Anything less will confirm Joe Biden as a coward," said Republican Senator Tom Cotton in a statement." Other than the degree/span of response, it doesn't seem that different to me. They didn't cut that many words, which makes it an interesting editorial choice, but seems like the takeaway there is the over-the-top hyperbole from Cotton. It gives Cotton and the Repubs the range to criticize most any other response from Biden as "cowardly" or "not enough". Pretty pathetic on the part of Cotton. This is a very serious escalation and neither the time nor place for Cotton to undermine Biden in the name of politics. On the other hand, it could actually be a coordinated response to become an important messaging that a severe smackdown is on the table. Only a Republican could deliver that, which makes a very real threat of potential escalation beyond what Biden actually does to make Iran get in line. But I have little faith there still exists that level of bipartisanship for that to actually be the case. RE: Three US soldiers killed and up to 34 injured in drone attack. - NATI BENGALS - 01-28-2024 Iran backed group based in Iraq launches attack on US troops in Jordan along the Syrian border because of Israel fighting with Hamas in Palestine. JFC what a cluster. If we know the location where the drone launched from I expect it to get blown up. I would like to see congressional authorization before a wide scale retaliation. Preferably something kept secret if a wide scale response where we hit forces in multiple countries is what is deemed necessary. RE: Three US soldiers killed and up to 34 injured in drone attack. - pally - 01-28-2024 Biden will respond proportionally and logically RE: Three US soldiers killed and up to 34 injured in drone attack. - Matt_Crimson - 01-28-2024 (01-28-2024, 07:14 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: Other than the degree/span of response, it doesn't seem that different to me. They didn't cut that many words, which makes it an interesting editorial choice, but seems like the takeaway there is the over-the-top hyperbole from Cotton. Yes, but the degree/span of the response is the biggest difference. He's directly calling for us to strike within Iranian territory, which would be seen as an escalation in an already tense situation. The Reuters edit makes it sound like a "general" response. RE: Three US soldiers killed and up to 34 injured in drone attack. - pally - 01-28-2024 Nikki Haley called for the 'full might of the American military" Gotta wonder what part the nuclear arsenal would play as part of the "fill might" RE: Three US soldiers killed and up to 34 injured in drone attack. - Matt_Crimson - 01-28-2024 (01-28-2024, 06:28 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Most likely response? Some sanctions on people in Iran and increased interdiction of Iranian ships suspected of smuggling weapons. A large portion of our Navy is already over in that region so it's the quickest response. Well I think where things get more interesting here is the Red Sea situation. The Houthi terrorist attacks in the Red Sea are disrupting global trade and we have already seen an increase in tensions there. Iran has been vocal about our military strikes against the Houthis, warning that it could potentially escalate the middle east into all out war. I actually have personally seen the effect the Red Sea situation is having as the company I work for has seen a severe shortage in shipping containers due to the situation. RE: Three US soldiers killed and up to 34 injured in drone attack. - Dill - 01-28-2024 (01-28-2024, 04:34 PM)Matt_Crimson Wrote: Thoughts? My thoughts are that "linked to Iran" and "Iran backed" are pretty vague, and reminiscent of Bush II era ramp-up for the Iraq invasion. Tom Cotton may be the worst geopolitical strategist MAGA has to offer, outside of Trump himself. I'm generally skeptical of Fox-style accounts that make Iran the strategic center of all ME conflict, much as the old USSR was used to explain the rise of colonial independence movements after WWII. Iranian control over proxies is quite varied and generally exaggerated, as the proxies have their own interests/motivations/goals and don't consider themselves "proxies." RE: Three US soldiers killed and up to 34 injured in drone attack. - Luvnit2 - 01-28-2024 (01-28-2024, 04:34 PM)Matt_Crimson Wrote: Thoughts? Prayers those who make the ultimate sacrifice for our country and for their families as well as those injured. Sadly, our POTUS is the commander and chief and ignored hundreds of attacks (warnings) to get us to today. Joe Biden and his Democratic leadership have a lot of blood on their hands of US soldiers. Just a very sad day for America. RE: Three US soldiers killed and up to 34 injured in drone attack. - Luvnit2 - 01-28-2024 (01-28-2024, 08:25 PM)Dill Wrote: My thoughts are that "linked to Iran" and "Iran backed" are pretty vague, I guess you have missed the numerous warnings Joe Biden, John Kirby and others have issued directly to Iran. This has nothing to do with Fox News, it has everything to do with Joe Biden and Democrats foreign policy. RE: Three US soldiers killed and up to 34 injured in drone attack. - Luvnit2 - 01-28-2024 (01-28-2024, 07:57 PM)pally Wrote: Biden will respond proportionally and logically Seriously, if it was your mother, fathers, brother, sister, husband, wife of close who died to day, would you make the same comment? Please tell how his prior logical and proportionally responses deterred or stopped today's major attack on our troops? Do you really trust hi and his horrible removal of service members and billions of dollars in equipment in Afghanistan? I feel everyone has the right to be very concerned on the Joe Biden policy. I don't want another war, but Biden's perceived weakness to the rest of the world may get us into another war. RE: Three US soldiers killed and up to 34 injured in drone attack. - Luvnit2 - 01-28-2024 https://www.iranintl.com/en/202401131943 It appears Biden's message to Iran was ignored. Message Delivered To Iran, Biden Says After Strikes On Houthis Saturday, 01/13/2024 President Joe Biden issued a veiled threat to Iran on Friday, hours after the US and Britain struck at dozens of Iran-backed Houthi sites in Yemen. The strike on Houthis Thursday night came after the group shrugged off all warnings and demands to stop attacking vessels in the Red Sea. There were more strikes Friday night, albeit on a much smaller scale, according to US officials. Five people were killed and six injured in the earlier overnight operation that President Biden said aimed to degenerate the Houthis’ capability to launch more attacks in the Red Sea. “I don’t think there’s any civilian casualties,” Biden said defending the Friday strikes conducted by warplanes, US Navy destroyers and even submarines, “that’s another reason why it’s a success.” Asked by a reporter if he had a message for Iran in the light of the attack, Biden said “I've already delivered the message to Iran. They know not to do anything." RE: Three US soldiers killed and up to 34 injured in drone attack. - NATI BENGALS - 01-28-2024 (01-28-2024, 10:38 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I feel everyone has the right to be very concerned on the Joe Biden policy. I don't want another war, but Biden's perceived weakness to the rest of the world may get us into another war. What's your solution bud? RE: Three US soldiers killed and up to 34 injured in drone attack. - StoneTheCrow - 01-28-2024 (01-28-2024, 11:36 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: What's your solution bud? Luckily for him his solution is to cast a vote for someone to navigate a solution. Unluckily for him, the guy who most of America cast their vote for thinks he’s negotiating the solution with an umbrella leaning in the corner of the entry of the front door. Or the nearest house plant. RE: Three US soldiers killed and up to 34 injured in drone attack. - NATI BENGALS - 01-29-2024 (01-28-2024, 11:55 PM)StoneTheCrow Wrote: Luckily for him his solution is to cast a vote for someone to navigate a solution. I'm not a fan of blind hatred partisan political attacks after American troops are killed. We are on the same team. I would be more receptive to it if there was a valid criticism. That's why I ask. He says we should all be worried about Biden's policy and perceived weakness. What should we change? Turn on Israel? Open fire and put troops on the ground in multiple countries? Nuke everybody? Or is the argument. Only one man can fix this. And we know who that is. And that is a load of shit. RE: Three US soldiers killed and up to 34 injured in drone attack. - NATI BENGALS - 01-29-2024 It's not every day you see a bipartisan group of elected political extremists with names like Ilhan Omar, MTG, Paul Gosar, and Cori Bush being a handful of people agreeing on something. Something like this letter from two days ago which is urging the POTUS to get congressional authorization before making military strikes. https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24377843-congress-letter-to-president-biden So will the speaker of the house be bringing a declaration of war to the floor tomorrow? I doubt it. |