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Florida has a measles outbreak. - GMDino - 02-22-2024 And it's not only getting worse, but it's about to get even more worse because they put incompetent people in charge. https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/02/unvaccinated-florida-kids-exposed-to-measles-can-skip-quarantine-officials-say/ Quote:Unvaccinated Florida kids exposed to measles can skip quarantine, officials say RE: Florida has a measles outbreak. - Nately120 - 02-22-2024 RE: Florida has a measles outbreak. - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 02-22-2024 (02-22-2024, 03:06 PM)GMDino Wrote: And it's not only getting worse, but it's about to get even more worse because they put incompetent people in charge. It would be really interesting to know why these kids were not vaccinated. RE: Florida has a measles outbreak. - NATI BENGALS - 02-22-2024 (02-22-2024, 06:37 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: It would be really interesting to know why these kids were not vaccinated. I would guess the demonization of vaccines in general, which has resulted in more people passing on routine vaccinations. Facebook mom medical advice? RE: Florida has a measles outbreak. - GMDino - 02-22-2024 (02-22-2024, 06:37 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: It would be really interesting to know why these kids were not vaccinated. https://www.sun-sentinel.com/2024/02/20/measles-continues-spread-in-broward-county-with-sixth-case-heres-how-to-protect-yourself-from-the-highly-contagious-virus/ Quote:It’s unclear whether all six children with measles were unvaccinated for the disease that was once thought to be eradicated in the United States. The first reported case last Thursday was a third-grade student at the elementary school. About 11% of the Manatee Bay students — roughly 117 students — are unvaccinated, using a medical or religious exemption from the mandatory vaccine requirements. RE: Florida has a measles outbreak. - Foolishpride - 02-22-2024 (02-22-2024, 06:37 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: It would be really interesting to know why these kids were not vaccinated. MIS-Information superhighways of social media. RE: Florida has a measles outbreak. - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 02-22-2024 (02-22-2024, 09:25 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: I would guess the demonization of vaccines in general, which has resulted in more people passing on routine vaccinations. (02-22-2024, 09:27 PM)GMDino Wrote: https://www.sun-sentinel.com/2024/02/20/measles-continues-spread-in-broward-county-with-sixth-case-heres-how-to-protect-yourself-from-the-highly-contagious-virus/ Thank you very much. So if we're looking at 11% we're well within the herd immunity zone, which is in the 70-90% range, depending on the disease. If even 3-4% of those unvaccinated are for medical reasons, i.e. not crazy Facebook mom reasons, then you're very comfortably within the herd immunity range. Another interesting question would be how a disease previously eradicated in the US managed to creep its way back in. I ask these questions because there's very likely more, and better, reasons for this happening than GOP politician is stupid. RE: Florida has a measles outbreak. - Nately120 - 02-22-2024 (02-22-2024, 09:47 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Thank you very much. So if we're looking at 11% we're well within the herd immunity zone, which is in the 70-90% range, depending on the disease. If even 3-4% of those unvaccinated are for medical reasons, i.e. not crazy Facebook mom reasons, then you're very comfortably within the herd immunity range. Another interesting question would be how a disease previously eradicated in the US managed to creep its way back in. I'll blame the laziness and stupidity of people for anything until I see otherwise. RE: Florida has a measles outbreak. - GMDino - 02-22-2024 (02-22-2024, 09:47 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Thank you very much. So if we're looking at 11% we're well within the herd immunity zone, which is in the 70-90% range, depending on the disease. If even 3-4% of those unvaccinated are for medical reasons, i.e. not crazy Facebook mom reasons, then you're very comfortably within the herd immunity range. Another interesting question would be how a disease previously eradicated in the US managed to creep its way back in. Same link: Quote:Measles is highly contagious, spread through the air when an infected person coughs or sneezes. If one person has it, about 90% of people around them will also become infected if they are not protected by the vaccine or masks, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The gop appointee decided to tell parents they didn't need to wait the usual 21 days. Same appointee who has been anti-vaccine to the point of lying about them. RE: Florida has a measles outbreak. - pally - 02-23-2024 Measles was never eradicated worldwide. It was considered eliminated in the US in 2000 with no continuous transmission over a 12-month period. However, it was right about this same time when the now discredited "study" came out linking the MMR vaccine to autism. Vaccine rates which had been at about 95-97% of first graders is now 91-93%. A small change but certainly enough that pockets of disease transmission can take place. The Amish and Hasidic Jewish populations both have had major outbreaks in recent years due to vaccine reluctance As Dino pointed out, measles is considered one of the most virulent viruses in the world. It spreads very easily and quickly among vulnerable populations. Because of its easy transmission and long life, herd immunity for measles requires about a 96% vaccination rate. Where the first child got it from is still anyone's guess. The CDC and health departments usually investigate these things. The thing is measles is so virulent that the child could have been walking down the street when an infected person coughed when passing him. The breakout in the Orthodox Jewish population several years ago was started by an Israeli who was traveling from community to community doing fundraisers for a charity. He thought he had the flu RE: Florida has a measles outbreak. - Nately120 - 02-23-2024 (02-23-2024, 12:46 AM)pally Wrote: The Amish and Hasidic Jewish populations both have had major outbreaks in recent years due to vaccine reluctance If god wanted me to be unvaccinated he would have made me Amish. RE: Florida has a measles outbreak. - guyofthetiger - 02-23-2024 I got the measles vaccine as a kid. Never got it. Got chicken pox though. Seemed every kid got chicken pox. That's why we need the shingles shot. RE: Florida has a measles outbreak. - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 02-23-2024 (02-23-2024, 12:46 AM)pally Wrote: Measles was never eradicated worldwide. It was considered eliminated in the US in 2000 with no continuous transmission over a 12-month period. However, it was right about this same time when the now discredited "study" came out linking the MMR vaccine to autism. Vaccine rates which had been at about 95-97% of first graders is now 91-93%. A small change but certainly enough that pockets of disease transmission can take place. The Amish and Hasidic Jewish populations both have had major outbreaks in recent years due to vaccine reluctance You mean religious objections. Quote:As Dino pointed out, measles is considered one of the most virulent viruses in the world. It spreads very easily and quickly among vulnerable populations. Because of its easy transmission and long life, herd immunity for measles requires about a 96% vaccination rate. Thank you for that information. Resistance to vaccines that have been in use for ages, and thoroughly tested, makes very little sense to me. Especially when the guy who authored the "study" that linked vaccines to autism flat out admitted he was lying. It probably also stems from a distrust of the government, which I honestly can't blame anyone for having. RE: Florida has a measles outbreak. - pally - 02-23-2024 (02-23-2024, 02:20 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: You mean religious objections. One of the leading anti-vaxers in the USA is Robert Kennedy Jr.. The organization he led, The Children's Health Defense is a leading source of misinformation on the MMR RE: Florida has a measles outbreak. - Nately120 - 02-23-2024 (02-23-2024, 02:20 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: It probably also stems from a distrust of the government, which I honestly can't blame anyone for having. Agreed, but it's odd that distrust of the government led to a lot of people distrusting science because it became partisan which led to people rushing to overly trust the government. I guess this goes back to the Reagan strategy of being "the government" but convincing people you are there to save them from "the government." You'll always have your hippy dippy healing crystal liberal types, but I'd wager a lot of people who don't trust vaccines now will cite a jumbled mix of not trusting the government and believing what people who are part of or speak "for the government" say. (02-23-2024, 02:50 PM)pally Wrote: One of the leading anti-vaxers in the USA is Robert Kennedy Jr.. The organization he led, The Children's Health Defense is a leading source of misinformation on the MMR There you go. I don't trust vaccines because I don't trust the government and the deep state, and one of the honest to god Kennedy's told me. RE: Florida has a measles outbreak. - NATI BENGALS - 02-25-2024 And the spread continues. This moron surgeon general in Florida is a problem. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2024/02/25/florida-measles-outbreak-surgeon-general-cdc/72729310007/ What a disaster of medical leadership. RE: Florida has a measles outbreak. - TheLeonardLeap - 02-26-2024 We forgot because of COVID, but people being anti-vax was a bipartisan effort. Not just a Florida issue. New York, Michigan, and Washington State https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/health/measles-outbreak.html The first 9 months of 2019 saw 1,249 cases of Measles in the US. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/68/wr/mm6840e2.htm Also not really even a US issue... https://www.cbsnews.com/news/measles-outbreaks-cdc-who-report-2022/ 68% increase in countries having outbreaks from 2021 to 2022, 5% less of the world population vaccinated for measles from 2019 to 2023. |