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Overstayed Visas - StLucieBengal - 01-20-2016 http://freebeacon.com/national-security/dhs-more-than-half-a-million-aliens-overstayed-visas-in-2015/ More than half a million .... What is the point of even applying for the visa if they have no plan to enforce them. Quote:More than half a million aliens overstayed their temporary visas in the United States in 2015, with more than 482,000 of those individuals believed to be still residing illegally in the United States, according to a new report by the Department of Homeland Security. RE: Overstayed Visas - BmorePat87 - 01-20-2016 So 1% or so? Yes, let's act like there is no point in even applying for a visa... RE: Overstayed Visas - michaelsean - 01-20-2016 And to think they deported Babu because Jerry forgot to give him his mail that was accidentally delivered to Jerry. RE: Overstayed Visas - StLucieBengal - 01-20-2016 BmorePa Wrote:So 1% or so? Yes, let's act like there is no point in even applying for a visa... Round up the violators and send them home. RE: Overstayed Visas - BmorePat87 - 01-20-2016 (01-20-2016, 02:26 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Round up the violators and send them home.Ok. But still keep issuing visas, right? RE: Overstayed Visas - StLucieBengal - 01-20-2016 BmorePat Wrote:Ok. But still keep issuing visas, right? Can't issue them if you aren't willing to follow up and keep track of people. RE: Overstayed Visas - BmorePat87 - 01-20-2016 (01-20-2016, 04:51 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Can't issue them if you aren't willing to follow up and keep track of people. I would say a 99% success rate in people returning is good. RE: Overstayed Visas - StLucieBengal - 01-21-2016 BmorePa Wrote:I would say a 99% success rate in people returning is good. Not knowing where they are is the problem. We should be tracking them. Yes 99% is good but no way should be running around unchecked. RE: Overstayed Visas - GMDino - 01-21-2016 (01-21-2016, 01:22 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Not knowing where they are is the problem. We should be tracking them. Registry? Implanted chips? Or are tattoos enough? RE: Overstayed Visas - Benton - 01-21-2016 (01-21-2016, 10:19 AM)GMDino Wrote: Registry? Implanted chips? Or are tattoos enough? Put them in camps. ![]() As far as the OP, same answer every time the topic is brought up: fund current laws, give the Department enough manpower to enforce those laws, and be stricter on employers hiring anyone who is ineligible to work. It's a lot more efficient and a lot safer than using raids to round up illegals, hold them for weeks, then take them wherever they're going (which costs thousands per illegal)... only to have them come right back which costs them nothing. RE: Overstayed Visas - fredtoast - 01-21-2016 It will cost a lot of money to track millions of people just becaue 1% do not comply. So this requires a cost/benefit analysis. Does that 1% cause enough problems to justify the massive expenditures required to track them all? RE: Overstayed Visas - GMDino - 01-21-2016 (01-21-2016, 12:36 PM)Benton Wrote: Put them in camps. Dang! Missed that option. And I'm one quarter German. ![]() RE: Overstayed Visas - Benton - 01-21-2016 (01-21-2016, 05:50 PM)GMDino Wrote: Dang! Missed that option. That's not enough German. Report to camp. ![]() RE: Overstayed Visas - Rotobeast - 01-21-2016 (01-21-2016, 06:15 PM)Benton Wrote: That's not enough German. Report to camp. Does 75-80% cut it ? Anyways.....to the OP...... Put bounties on them. ![]() RE: Overstayed Visas - SunsetBengal - 01-21-2016 (01-20-2016, 05:06 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: I would say a 99% success rate in people returning is good. That is a good rate. Shows that most people that come to visit the US are earnest in their intent, and respectful of our laws. However, half a million remaining here illegally is just too many. I realize that when you look at the total number of people that visit the US, that number seems very small, but it doesn't take very many dangerous people to cause harm to a large number of American citizens. This a dangerous time that we live in. We look to our government to protect us from harm, that is job 1 of government, to protect the safety of it's citizens. I fear that if the people that are in government, and it's agencies (all employees of us, the taxpayers) aren't able to contain possible homeland terrorist attacks (similar to San Bernadino) then they will have to act in drastic forms, forcing us citizens into giving up our liberties and freedoms that we are all accustomed to. Accountability, that is where it all leads back to. We currently have a President that does not hold the employees of America accountable, and that slack is impacting our safety. RE: Overstayed Visas - fredtoast - 01-21-2016 (01-21-2016, 10:56 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Accountability, that is where it all leads back to. We currently have a President that does not hold the employees of America accountable, and that slack is impacting our safety. What does this even mean? What employees? Accountable for what? RE: Overstayed Visas - fredtoast - 01-21-2016 (01-21-2016, 10:56 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: it doesn't take very many dangerous people to cause harm to a large number of American citizens. The biggest mistake we could make is to only look at immigrants as a threat. Of all the terrorists attacks and foiled attacks over the last few years many of them were by American citizens. We need the government to take steps to protect us from all possible threats, not just immigrants. RE: Overstayed Visas - SunsetBengal - 01-22-2016 (01-21-2016, 11:47 PM)fredtoast Wrote: What does this even mean? What employees? Accountable for what? You know exactly what it means. Otherwise, you wouldn't have isolated one particular sentence, from the entire quote, for the purpose of attempting to get me to explain things that we both already know. ![]() (01-21-2016, 11:51 PM)fredtoast Wrote: The biggest mistake we could make is to only look at immigrants as a threat. Of all the terrorists attacks and foiled attacks over the last few years many of them were by American citizens. People who visit the US on visas are visitors, not immigrants. As far as I understand, they must file certain paperwork declaring their desire to officially immigrate. When these visitors violate the terms of their visa, they become illegal foreign nationals. With the state of affairs in the world right now, we cannot afford to have half a million illegal nationals roaming around, with their whereabouts untracked. It puts the US citizens in danger. RE: Overstayed Visas - fredtoast - 01-22-2016 (01-22-2016, 12:13 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: You know exactly what it means. Otherwise, you wouldn't have isolated one particular sentence, from the entire quote, for the purpose of attempting to get me to explain things that we both already know. I have no clue what it means? Why would I ask the question if I did? You are not afraid to answer are you? RE: Overstayed Visas - SunsetBengal - 01-22-2016 (01-22-2016, 12:16 AM)fredtoast Wrote: I have no clue what it means? Why would I ask the question if I did? Ok Fred, everyone knows how you go about, with your "Matlock" like lawyer rhetoric.. But, just for fun, I will indulge you. By "employee", I mean anyone who holds office, or works for the government. As technically they are all paid with citizen tax dollars, and therefore are employees of the citizens. By "accountability", I mean whomever is in charge of them holding them to task of doing their duty to protect the citizens of the US. Clear enough? |