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Cuomo issues crackdown on LGBT conversion therapy - GMDino - 02-07-2016 This is interesting. 1) What if an individual WANTS the therapy? I suppose they would have to wait until they were 18? 2) Somehow THIS was covered under insurance policies but my wife can't get her heartburn medicine? http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Cuomo-bans-LGBT-conversion-therapy-insurance-6811917.php?cmpid=fb-desktop Quote:Gov. Andrew Cuomo on Saturday issued a series of rules designed to stop the use of conversion therapy, in which therapists try to change the sexual orientation or gender identity of gay, lesbian or transgender people. RE: Cuomo issues crackdown on LGBT conversion therapy - Rotobeast - 02-07-2016 I don't see a problem with consultation, to make sure the young person has someone outside of their family to talk to, if they need it. I don't agree with attempting to "convert" though. RE: Cuomo issues crackdown on LGBT conversion therapy - fredtoast - 02-07-2016 Seems pretty obvious that it should be allowed for adults who can make their own choice. But what if the child seems to want it? I'd say let the minor have a confidential session with a clinical psychologist and then let them decide if the child really wants it. Even then I would only agree with kids over 12 or so being allowed to consent. RE: Cuomo issues crackdown on LGBT conversion therapy - Nately120 - 02-07-2016 Personally, I think the government needs to step up and force people to stop choosing to be left-handed. I'm old-school like that. RE: Cuomo issues crackdown on LGBT conversion therapy - Rotobeast - 02-07-2016 (02-07-2016, 02:09 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Personally, I think the government needs to step up and force people to stop choosing to be left-handed. I'm old-school like that. YEAH !! Cause who the heck wants their kid to turn out like the evil Obama ? Ammiright ? ![]() RE: Cuomo issues crackdown on LGBT conversion therapy - BmorePat87 - 02-07-2016 If an adult wants it, allow it. It's garbage but it's their right to pay someone for that garbage. RE: Cuomo issues crackdown on LGBT conversion therapy - fredtoast - 02-07-2016 (02-07-2016, 02:09 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Seems pretty obvious that it should be allowed for adults who can make their own choice. BTW we can just flip the debate and ask what if parents want to change their childs physical sexual organs. I am pretty sure most people would agree this is not a decision a parent should be allowed to make, and probably something a minor should not be allowed to consent to. RE: Cuomo issues crackdown on LGBT conversion therapy - StLucieBengal - 02-07-2016 What actually consists of conversion therapy? Just a bunch of counseling? If you have issues with gender or sexuality you should be examined for a mental illness. Same as we do for people who have other odd issues. RE: Cuomo issues crackdown on LGBT conversion therapy - Nately120 - 02-07-2016 (02-07-2016, 03:20 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: What actually consists of conversion therapy? Just a bunch of counseling? Ida know, how do you think you'd enjoy being counseled on the awesomeness of having sex with other men for a protracted period of time? I'm sure it's even more fun when society starts pressuring or ostracizing you for not being into it. Oy, of all the things that are wrong with me, I'm glad my sexuality isn't one that is considered to be worthy of change. RE: Cuomo issues crackdown on LGBT conversion therapy - StLucieBengal - 02-07-2016 (02-07-2016, 03:25 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Ida know, how do you think you'd enjoy being counseled on the awesomeness of having sex with other men for a protracted period of time? Is it just couseling? The way cuomo and some other talks about it you would think it involved electric shock. RE: Cuomo issues crackdown on LGBT conversion therapy - fredtoast - 02-07-2016 (02-07-2016, 03:20 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: What actually consists of conversion therapy? Just a bunch of counseling? This is a delicate issue. I believe that child should have an independent evaluation, but only to determine if their has been any undue influence by an adult or authority figure. It is sometimes hard for the child to understand that they are not being judged in these situations. They see a stigma attached to "needs counselling". RE: Cuomo issues crackdown on LGBT conversion therapy - fredtoast - 02-07-2016 (02-07-2016, 03:27 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Is it just couseling? The way cuomo and some other talks about it you would think it involved electric shock. It is specific behavior modification. That is more than just "counselling". RE: Cuomo issues crackdown on LGBT conversion therapy - Nately120 - 02-07-2016 (02-07-2016, 03:27 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Is it just couseling? The way cuomo and some other talks about it you would think it involved electric shock. Hard to say. If there are people out there who fully believe your sexuality is going to lead to the downfall of society and/or your soul spending an eternity deep-throating Satan's pitchfork why not toss a few shocks in there? The ends justify the means! Anywho, what it all comes down to is the flawed (in my mind) notion that people can choose and/or change their sexuality. For what it's worth, I'm straight, and I have to say that I have a hard time believing someone could counsel or shock me into being legitimately only interested in having sex with other men. Do you think you could be turned gay? RE: Cuomo issues crackdown on LGBT conversion therapy - StLucieBengal - 02-07-2016 (02-07-2016, 03:30 PM)fredtoast Wrote: It is specific behavior modification. That is more than just "counselling". So electric shock? Or just more talking? RE: Cuomo issues crackdown on LGBT conversion therapy - fredtoast - 02-07-2016 (02-07-2016, 03:32 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Do you think you could be turned gay? You can't change Lucie. He be "fixed" because he is not "broken". RE: Cuomo issues crackdown on LGBT conversion therapy - Nately120 - 02-07-2016 (02-07-2016, 03:33 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: So electric shock? Or just more talking? Is it talking or is it a form of sexuality with which you don't identify being shoved down your throat? RE: Cuomo issues crackdown on LGBT conversion therapy - fredtoast - 02-07-2016 (02-07-2016, 03:33 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: So electric shock? Or just more talking? You know how my dad broke me from wanting to smoke when I was a kid? He made me chain smoke a whole pack. It made me so sick I never tried them again. Think about it. RE: Cuomo issues crackdown on LGBT conversion therapy - Nately120 - 02-07-2016 (02-07-2016, 03:37 PM)fredtoast Wrote: You know how my dad broke me from wanting to smoke when I was a kid? Make you have sex with women until you turn into Liberace? Seems legit. RE: Cuomo issues crackdown on LGBT conversion therapy - StLucieBengal - 02-07-2016 (02-07-2016, 03:32 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Hard to say. If there are people out there who fully believe your sexuality is going to lead to the downfall of society and/or your soul spending an eternity deep-throating Satan's pitchfork why not toss a few shocks in there? The ends justify the means! 1. sexual behavior could very well have an impact on society. this topic of gay/straight conversion is only tricky because we somehow dismiss that it's not a mental health issue, due to ye fact that it's acceptable. If we change it to any other mental health issue dealing with sexuality we don't think this way. Unless we start talking about pedos and whether they will be accepted in society. As slate tried to promote late last year. 2. This comment also made me realize we agree on this issue. But I will throw this out there .... Does this mean that people can't change their assigned sexuality by Mother Nature. If not then Sexuality is a learned behavior. RE: Cuomo issues crackdown on LGBT conversion therapy - StLucieBengal - 02-07-2016 (02-07-2016, 03:37 PM)fredtoast Wrote: You know how my dad broke me from wanting to smoke when I was a kid? Now we know where you got your grooming idea ![]() |