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Siamese Twins and Abortion - BFritz21 - 04-12-2016
Question for Democrats, since they seem to be the ones ok with abortion because it's a woman's choice.
Say that there's Siamese twins, and they share an organ, but twin A has a majority of it and twin B can't live without A being alive.
Would it be ok for twin A to kill twin B because B can't live without A, just as a baby can't live without the mother? Isn't it the choice of A to live freely without the burden of B?
Extreme example, but please tell me how that logic is flawed.
RE: Siamese Twins and Abortion - GMDino - 04-12-2016
(04-12-2016, 02:28 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: Question for Democrats, since they seem to be the ones ok with abortion because it's a woman's choice.
Say that there's Siamese twins, and they share an organ, but twin A has a majority of it and twin B can't live without A being alive.
Would it be ok for twin A to kill twin B because B can't live without A, just as a baby can't live without the mother? Isn't it the choice of A to live freely without the burden of B?
Extreme example, but please tell me how that logic is flawed.
It is up to the parents to decide if they want to try and separate the twins, knowing one will die or not.
Not yours. Not mine. Not the "Democrats".
RE: Siamese Twins and Abortion - CKwi88 - 04-12-2016
(04-12-2016, 02:32 PM)GMDino Wrote: It is up to the parents to decide if they want to try and separate the twins, knowing one will die or not.
Not yours. Not mine. Not the "Democrats".
/thread.
I think there was a famous case of this in England. Tough to put yourself in the parent's shoes.
RE: Siamese Twins and Abortion - BFritz21 - 04-12-2016
(04-12-2016, 02:32 PM)GMDino Wrote: It is up to the parents to decide if they want to try and separate the twins, knowing one will die or not.
Not yours. Not mine. Not the "Democrats".
I mean after they're fully grown and can decide for themselves.
Would it be ok for one to say "ok, you have to die because it's my body and my decision"?
RE: Siamese Twins and Abortion - Benton - 04-12-2016
How does baby A kill baby B? They both have tiny little baby hands. Given that abortion in most states is only legal for the first six months or so, they probably haven't had a lot of bench time, so I don't think there's even good forearm strength there.
I guess he could kill him with kindness, but I always thought that was a metaphor.
RE: Siamese Twins and Abortion - Griever - 04-12-2016
(04-12-2016, 02:47 PM)Benton Wrote: How does baby A kill baby B? They both have tiny little baby hands. Given that abortion in most states is only legal for the first six months or so, they probably haven't had a lot of bench time, so I don't think there's even good forearm strength there.
I guess he could kill him with kindness, but I always thought that was a metaphor.
i for one think baby A should absorb baby B
that way as he grows he will have his on strength, plus that of a babies as well
RE: Siamese Twins and Abortion - GMDino - 04-12-2016
(04-12-2016, 02:46 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: I mean after they're fully grown and can decide for themselves.
Would it be ok for one to say "ok, you have to die because it's my body and my decision"?
Do adults have different rights than children? Is the second twin fully developed?
Lots of ethical concerns in a situation like that.
None of which have anything to do with abortion.
RE: Siamese Twins and Abortion - GMDino - 04-12-2016
(04-12-2016, 02:54 PM)Griever Wrote: i for one think baby A should absorb baby B
that way as he grows he will have his on strength, plus that of a babies as well
The problem is all these terrorist babies that won't assimilate by allowing themselves to be absorbed!
RE: Siamese Twins and Abortion - BengalHawk62 - 04-12-2016
Sooooooo.........I found myself elbow deep in a goat the other day.
RE: Siamese Twins and Abortion - Benton - 04-12-2016
(04-12-2016, 02:54 PM)Griever Wrote: i for one think baby A should absorb baby B
that way as he grows he will have his on strength, plus that of a babies as well
Can babies do that? Cause if so, I should probably stop fighting them for boob time.
RE: Siamese Twins and Abortion - SteelCitySouth - 04-12-2016
(04-12-2016, 03:07 PM)BengalHawk62 Wrote: Sooooooo.........I found myself elbow deep in a goat the other day.
It wasn't a goat....and I'm still a bit sore.
RE: Siamese Twins and Abortion - fredtoast - 04-12-2016
(04-12-2016, 02:28 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: Would it be ok for twin A to kill twin B because B can't live without A, just as a baby can't live without the mother? Isn't it the choice of A to live freely without the burden of B?
Extreme example, but please tell me how that logic is flawed.
Your logic is flawed because once these twins are born they are both entitled to individual rights that another person can not take away.
In the case of abortion an unborn fetus is not an individual entitled to individual rights. It is still a part of the mother.
RE: Siamese Twins and Abortion - Benton - 04-12-2016
(04-12-2016, 02:46 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: I mean after they're fully grown and can decide for themselves.
Would it be ok for one to say "ok, you have to die because it's my body and my decision"?
What's that got to do with abortions?
Or, for that matter, Democrats? If anything, it would be more closely related to Republicans. Abortions are concerning fetuses, what you're suggesting is more like organ harvesting. Organ harvesting is more of a free market thing. I'd like to hear more input from capitalists on harvesting organs.
RE: Siamese Twins and Abortion - Benton - 04-12-2016
(04-12-2016, 03:17 PM)SteelCitySouth Wrote: It wasn't a goat....and I'm still a bit sore.
And that wasn't his elbow.
RE: Siamese Twins and Abortion - SteelCitySouth - 04-12-2016
This thread has some Hawking level thought going on in it.
RE: Siamese Twins and Abortion - fredtoast - 04-12-2016
(04-12-2016, 02:28 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: Question for Democrats, since they seem to be the ones ok with abortion because it's a woman's choice.
Yes. Democrats are more concerned with protecting individual rights than Republicans who want the government to make these decisions for women.
I don't know a single Democrat who thinks abortion is a good thing. But we still value individual rights over government control.
RE: Siamese Twins and Abortion - Griever - 04-12-2016
(04-12-2016, 03:13 PM)Benton Wrote:
Can babies do that? Cause if so, I should probably stop fighting them for boob time.
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RE: Siamese Twins and Abortion - BengalHawk62 - 04-12-2016
(04-12-2016, 03:17 PM)SteelCitySouth Wrote: It wasn't a goat....and I'm still a bit sore.
(04-12-2016, 03:19 PM)Benton Wrote: And that wasn't his elbow.
RE: Siamese Twins and Abortion - Beaker - 04-12-2016
If you give them both knives and let them fight it out....do both feel the pain when one stabs the other?
RE: Siamese Twins and Abortion - Benton - 04-12-2016
(04-12-2016, 05:52 PM)Beaker Wrote: If you give them both knives and let them fight it out....do both feel the pain when one stabs the other?
These are Siamese twins, not tomax and xamot.