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West Point investigating cadets' fists-raised photo - GMDino - 05-09-2016 http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/05/09/west-point-investigating-cadets-fists-raised-photo/84129852/ Quote:West Point is investigating a photo that shows 16 black female cadets in uniform displaying raised fists outside a U.S. Military Academy barracks. RE: West Point investigating cadets' fists-raised photo - fredtoast - 05-09-2016 Even if among this group the "raised fist" was not intended to be a political statement these ladies are smart enough to know exactly how the general public would treat it. It was a poor decision on their part to circulate it. RE: West Point investigating cadets' fists-raised photo - fredtoast - 05-09-2016 Trivia question. Name the former Bengals in this photo. RE: West Point investigating cadets' fists-raised photo - Rotobeast - 05-09-2016 (05-09-2016, 12:07 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Trivia question. Tommie Smith. RE: West Point investigating cadets' fists-raised photo - JustWinBaby - 05-09-2016 (05-09-2016, 12:04 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Even if among this group the "raised fist" was not intended to be a political statement these ladies are smart enough to know exactly how the general public would treat it. It was a poor decision on their part to circulate it. Sure. But could/should they be punished when it's not clear it was a political statement (as the article points out, it's been adopted by many groups to mean many things over the years)? RE: West Point investigating cadets' fists-raised photo - fredtoast - 05-09-2016 (05-09-2016, 05:42 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: Tommie Smith. Correct http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SmitTo01.htm RE: West Point investigating cadets' fists-raised photo - bfine32 - 05-09-2016 (05-09-2016, 05:46 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: Sure. But could/should they be punished when it's not clear it was a political statement (as the article points out, it's been adopted by many groups to mean many things over the years)? Should a bunch of southern white grads be punished if the posed with Confederate Flags? RE: West Point investigating cadets' fists-raised photo - Belsnickel - 05-09-2016 (05-09-2016, 07:04 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Should a bunch of southern white grads be punished if the posed with Confederate Flags? Would they be? I have seen a lot of pictures of soldiers around a CSA battle flag. I know the military has this rule and these cadets should be investigated for this to find out what the purpose was, but the flag thing wouldn't get the same attention if they were just posing with it. RE: West Point investigating cadets' fists-raised photo - bfine32 - 05-09-2016 (05-09-2016, 08:10 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Would they be? I have seen a lot of pictures of soldiers around a CSA battle flag. I know the military has this rule and these cadets should be investigated for this to find out what the purpose was, but the flag thing wouldn't get the same attention if they were just posing with it. Would they? Who knows. Should they? Absolutely. It would be one thing if a group of mixed cultures and races posed with the confederate flag; but if it were stickily white southeners, then they have made a political statement and disgraced the uniform. RE: West Point investigating cadets' fists-raised photo - GMDino - 05-09-2016 (05-09-2016, 08:29 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Would they? Who knows. Should they? Absolutely. RE: West Point investigating cadets' fists-raised photo - bfine32 - 05-09-2016 (05-09-2016, 08:32 PM)GMDino Wrote: Folks have generally come to realize that you seldom makes a point; usually just post a meme, parrot what someone else said, or quote folks and insert a smiley face. But I must say, this meme makes absolutely no sense. Was there a point? I'm going to go with no; maybe someone else sees it. Help me out folks. RE: West Point investigating cadets' fists-raised photo - Belsnickel - 05-09-2016 (05-09-2016, 08:29 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Would they? Who knows. Should they? Absolutely. I live in an area with a lot of the whole "southern pride" thing going on and some folks I went to school with served and they always had their battle flags. I knew about the rule but I never even thought about how it would be applied to them. I never heard of them facing any sort of reprimand. One of them had his cover photo as him sitting on an Abrams with his brown round on and his battle flag hanging from the barrel of the tank. RE: West Point investigating cadets' fists-raised photo - fredtoast - 05-09-2016 (05-09-2016, 08:55 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Was there a point? I'm going to go with no; maybe someone else sees it. Help me out folks. The point was that you went out of your way to come up with an imaginary situation where white people suffer and minorities do not. RE: West Point investigating cadets' fists-raised photo - GMDino - 05-09-2016 (05-09-2016, 08:55 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Folks have generally come to realize that you seldom makes a point; usually just post a meme, parrot what someone else said, or quote folks and insert a smiley face. But I must say, this meme makes absolutely no sense. Was there a point? I'm going to go with no; maybe someone else sees it. Help me out folks. Is that some "folks" or the "vast majority of the population including many from the scientific community" folks? Anyway... (05-09-2016, 08:29 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Would they? Who knows. Should they? Absolutely. RE: West Point investigating cadets' fists-raised photo - bfine32 - 05-09-2016 (05-09-2016, 08:56 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: I live in an area with a lot of the whole "southern pride" thing going on and some folks I went to school with served and they always had their battle flags. I knew about the rule but I never even thought about how it would be applied to them. I never heard of them facing any sort of reprimand. One of them had his cover photo as him sitting on an Abrams with his brown round on and his battle flag hanging from the barrel of the tank. Well he should absolutely be reprimanded. Do whatever you want, just don't do it in the uniform that you swore to defend this country in. RE: West Point investigating cadets' fists-raised photo - GMDino - 05-09-2016 (05-09-2016, 08:59 PM)fredtoast Wrote: The point was that you went out of your way to come up with an imaginary situation where white people suffer and minorities do not. Careful, Larry will think I'm me and you're you again! RE: West Point investigating cadets' fists-raised photo - bfine32 - 05-09-2016 (05-09-2016, 08:59 PM)fredtoast Wrote: The point was that you went out of your way to come up with an imaginary situation where white people suffer and minorities do not. No Dino, I provided an anecdotal example to draw a correlation. I clearly showed my opinion is unchanged regardless of color or message. You guys are just set to default to racists bigot, that you saw something that wasn't there. RE: West Point investigating cadets' fists-raised photo - GMDino - 05-09-2016 (05-09-2016, 09:01 PM)GMDino Wrote: Careful, Larry will think I'm me and you're you again! (05-09-2016, 09:04 PM)bfine32 Wrote: No Dino, See? Anyway...in fantasy "I didn't say that land" (05-09-2016, 09:04 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I provided an anecdotal example to draw a correlation. I clearly showed my opinion is unchanged regardless of color or message. You guys are just set to default to racists bigot, that you saw something that wasn't there. (05-09-2016, 08:29 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Would they? Who knows. Should they? Absolutely. RE: West Point investigating cadets' fists-raised photo - bfine32 - 05-09-2016 (05-09-2016, 08:55 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Folks have generally come to realize that you seldom makes a point; usually just post a meme, parrot what someone else said, or quote folks and insert a smiley face. But I must say, this meme makes absolutely no sense. Was there a point? I'm going to go with no; maybe someone else sees it. Help me out folks. (05-09-2016, 09:17 PM)GMDino Wrote: See? Thanks for that. RE: West Point investigating cadets' fists-raised photo - GMDino - 05-09-2016 (05-09-2016, 09:19 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Thanks for that. I mean, sure, you can go for a personal attack rather than defend what you said but that's so unlike.... oh never mind. Solid post. |