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7 Simple Tips for a Successful Marriage - GMDino - 07-02-2015 http://mic.com/articles/121596/bibles-guide-to-a-successful-fundamentalist-christian-marriage?utm_source=huffpost&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=partner Quote:The Supreme Court ruling that legalized same-sex marriage nationwide Friday is terrible. Many of them leaned on arguments gleaned from the Bible to make their point, insisting God's word is a literal instruction manual for public policy in the 21st century. RE: 7 Simple Tips for a Successful Marriage - Ben Richards - 07-02-2015 This seems totally reasonable to me, and I for one, am glad Jesus took the time to write this stuff down. RE: 7 Simple Tips for a Successful Marriage - Benton - 07-02-2015 Quote:But what if that shoe was on the other foot? Here are eight passages taken verbatim from Christianity's holy book that Well, except ... a- that's not Chrstianity's book. Christianity is based around the NT; Judaism is based around the OT. It's like confusing the assembly diagram for your car with the owner's manual. b- those passages (OT) are 4-6,000 years old and are more reflective of the society than religious beliefs. RE: 7 Simple Tips for a Successful Marriage - Ben Richards - 07-02-2015 4-6,000 years old. Wow. I always thought most people that believed in that stuff thought the Earth was like 3,000 years old. RE: 7 Simple Tips for a Successful Marriage - Benton - 07-02-2015 (07-02-2015, 11:02 AM)Ben Richards Wrote: 4-6,000 years old. Wow. I always thought most people that believed in that stuff thought the Earth was like 3,000 years old. There are fewer people who think that. Thankfully. There's not a lot of time stamps, but, from what I've read, most of the OT books were written between 4-6,000 years ago. RE: 7 Simple Tips for a Successful Marriage - Nately120 - 07-02-2015 (07-02-2015, 11:30 AM)Benton Wrote: There are fewer people who think that. Thankfully. There's not a lot of time stamps, but, from what I've read, most of the OT books were written between 4-6,000 years ago. Meh, isn't OT God just Zeus with a different name and a new coat of paint? Or was the OT older than tales of Zeus? Meh, Ida know. RE: 7 Simple Tips for a Successful Marriage - fredtoast - 07-02-2015 (07-02-2015, 11:37 AM)Nately120 Wrote: Meh, isn't OT God just Zeus with a different name and a new coat of paint? Nah, Zeus was a total stud who screwed everything in sight and sired dozens of children. The Christian god is a nerd that never got laid. That is why he hates women and sex so much. RE: 7 Simple Tips for a Successful Marriage - Belsnickel - 07-02-2015 (07-02-2015, 11:30 AM)Benton Wrote: There are fewer people who think that. Thankfully. There's not a lot of time stamps, but, from what I've read, most of the OT books were written between 4-6,000 years ago. (07-02-2015, 11:37 AM)Nately120 Wrote: Meh, isn't OT God just Zeus with a different name and a new coat of paint? Or was the OT older than tales of Zeus? Meh, Ida know. The OT as we know it today is from about 600BCE onward. It was during Babylonian captivity that the Jews came into contact with Zoroastrianism and that changed their faith from a more polytheistic approach to monotheistic. When this occurred, many of their stories were reworked to go with the idea of one god. The deity that remained was but the highest ranking of the gods in their pantheon. RE: 7 Simple Tips for a Successful Marriage - fredtoast - 07-02-2015 The best part of this article begins with this line But this is a selective reading of the Bible, trimmed to its worst parts! Instead of just smugly listing the bad parts of the Bible to attack all Christians it tries to give a reasonable perspective and explain how people can be good Christians and still reject the crazy parts of the Bible. RE: 7 Simple Tips for a Successful Marriage - PhilHos - 07-02-2015 (07-02-2015, 12:20 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: The OT as we know it today is from about 600BCE onward. It was during Babylonian captivity that the Jews came into contact with Zoroastrianism and that changed their faith from a more polytheistic approach to monotheistic. When this occurred, many of their stories were reworked to go with the idea of one god. The deity that remained was but the highest ranking of the gods in their pantheon. Oh geez. ![]() RE: 7 Simple Tips for a Successful Marriage - PhilHos - 07-02-2015 I didn't want to comment on the article originally, 'cause I understand the point it's trying to make, but because this will just lead to more misinformation, the very first verse that discusses Christian marriages (in Ephesians chapter 5), it says: "Submit to one another" (Ephesians 5:21). Plus, it also goes into more detail about the relationship of husbands to wives. RE: 7 Simple Tips for a Successful Marriage - fredtoast - 07-02-2015 (07-02-2015, 12:31 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Oh geez. His claims are backed up by actual archaeological proof. There is plenty of evidence that the Hebrews were much more polytheistic before the diaspora. RE: 7 Simple Tips for a Successful Marriage - Belsnickel - 07-02-2015 (07-02-2015, 12:31 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Oh geez. Do you disagree with the opinions of numerous religious scholars on this issue? This is the prevailing stance these days when looking at the history of Judaism. RE: 7 Simple Tips for a Successful Marriage - Nately120 - 07-02-2015 Everything I care to know about Christianity came from a double LP. ![]() RE: 7 Simple Tips for a Successful Marriage - PhilHos - 07-02-2015 (07-02-2015, 12:39 PM)fredtoast Wrote: His claims are backed up by actual archaeological proof. There is plenty of evidence that the Hebrews were much more polytheistic before the diaspora. Were there Hebrews that worshiped more than the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Yes. Heck, the Israelites were constantly turning to other gods. That does not make Judaism polytheistic. I have seen nothing that suggests that Judaism the religion involved the worship of anything other than the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. (07-02-2015, 12:40 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Do you disagree with the opinions of numerous religious scholars on this issue? This is the prevailing stance these days when looking at the history of Judaism. Considering that the prevailing suggested date of Zoroaster's birth is considered to be the 6th Century BC, I find it hard to believe that it was he that had an effect on Judaism and not the other way around (at least, when it comes to the similarities between the 2). RE: 7 Simple Tips for a Successful Marriage - Belsnickel - 07-02-2015 (07-02-2015, 12:58 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Considering that the prevailing suggested date of Zoroaster's birth is considered to be the 6th Century BC, I find it hard to believe that it was he that had an effect on Judaism and not the other way around (at least, when it comes to the similarities between the 2). The archaeological evidence suggests a significant shift in the theology of the Semitic people during the Second Temple Period. Early Semitic theology held a pantheon of deities with each nation having a corresponding deity. Elohim was the deity of the Semitic people, the Israelites, and was the most powerful. While Elohim was the deity worshiped almost exclusively by them, there was the existence of multiple deities. When they returned from their exile and the Second Temple period happened, the archaeological evidence shows a loss of any mention of other deities. They disappear. So during their time away the religion transformed into Judaism from the ancient Semitic religion. Now, I don't know what the majority of scholars say in regards to Zoroaster's time frame because I've seen many conflicting opinions on it ranging from 1700 to 500 BCE. I don't know what the majority opinion is on that. There is a lot of archaeological evidence suggesting, however, that there was a monotheistic religion in existence in Persia before the exile of the Israelites into Babylon where there is also evidence of this Persian religion having a presence. Whether this was a proto-Zoroastrianism or what, hard to say, but it was there. So, when combined with the exile to Babylon and the theological shift of the Israelites upon their return, the opinion has come about to be that this religion influenced the ancient Semitic religion into Second Temple Judaism. RE: 7 Simple Tips for a Successful Marriage - Beaker - 07-02-2015 I have one tip for a successful marriage: 1. Pick your battles. 90% of the crap she wants to "discuss" (i.e. argue about or get her way), I really don't care about anyway. It doesn't matter to me what color throw pillows we get, or whether or not we need sconces in the hallway. If I let her have her way on most of the stuff she wants (which don't matter to me), then when I really do want something, she thinks to herself "he usually lets me have my way, this must really be important to him, ok, I'll let him have it". She thinks she is controlling most of the decisions and letting me have a few things to keep me happy, when in reality I get the things I want plus I don't have to listen to the bitching because I didn't let her have the things I don't care about anyway. Simple. RE: 7 Simple Tips for a Successful Marriage - Nately120 - 07-02-2015 (07-02-2015, 01:35 PM)Beaker Wrote: I have one tip for a successful marriage: I was in a relationship where I attempted to give in and let her do things her way after a number of pointless battles involving stating my actual thoughts on things, but she was unhappy because she didn't want me to give in. Basically, she wanted to do things her way but she wanted me to WANT to do things her way without having to give in and just let her win. It was pretty frustrating. She would get upset when I argued or attempted to even debate my point/my way but when I gave in and decided that just doing things her way was good enough for me she took that as me not wanting or being capable of being involved in a working relationship. She was a pain in the arse. So in summation, just giving in doesn't always work either. RE: 7 Simple Tips for a Successful Marriage - Beaker - 07-02-2015 (07-02-2015, 01:39 PM)Nately120 Wrote: I was in a relationship where I attempted to give in and let her do things her way after a number of pointless battles involving stating my actual thoughts on things, but she was unhappy because she didn't want me to give in. Basically, she wanted to do things her way but she wanted me to WANT to do things her way without having to give in and just let her win. It was pretty frustrating. Not giving in...picking your battles. The chick you had simply decided she wasn't going to be happy no matter what. RE: 7 Simple Tips for a Successful Marriage - Nately120 - 07-02-2015 (07-02-2015, 01:48 PM)Beaker Wrote: Not giving in...picking your battles. The chick you had simply decided she wasn't going to be happy no matter what. The numbers of battles I picked diminished over the course of our relationship. I don't blame anyone for not being particularly happy with me, but this was just unfair. |