(12-08-2016, 01:57 PM)ochocincos Wrote: In what's been a horrible year for the Cincinnati Bengals offensive line, two of them are performing rather well...at least according to PFF.

PFF has Andrew Whitworth coming in at #5, 2nd-best OT.
Kevin Zeitler also makes the top 25 at #23, 8th best OG.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-top-25-nfl-offensive-linemen-this-season/?utm_content=bufferafcf1&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=nfl

Both are set to become FAs at the end of the season. Hopefully they are the top two priorities for re-signing, as the Bengals desperately need to get the OL back on track.

(12-08-2016, 02:37 PM)BengalHawk62 Wrote: I don't know....but my gut says Zeitler takes precedence over Whit.  Not saying I don't want Whit back, but due to their age, Zeitler should take precedence. 

(12-08-2016, 05:22 PM)Hammerstripes Wrote: I'm not worried about Whit leaving.  I think he has a spot here as long as he wants and I also think that he will get 1-year deals until his career is over.  Mike Brown is famous for taking care of guys like Whit.

The priority needs to be Zeitler and Dre.  I really think Dre has turned into one of the better CBs in the league, not elite, but definitely not middle of the road.

(12-08-2016, 05:22 PM)Hammerstripes Wrote: I'm not worried about Whit leaving.  I think he has a spot here as long as he wants and I also think that he will get 1-year deals until his career is over.  Mike Brown is famous for taking care of guys like Whit.

The priority needs to be Zeitler and Dre.  I really think Dre has turned into one of the better CBs in the league, not elite, but definitely not middle of the road.

(12-08-2016, 05:25 PM)Go Cards Wrote: Agree with this completely. 

(12-08-2016, 01:57 PM)ochocincos Wrote: In what's been a horrible year for the Cincinnati Bengals offensive line, two of them are performing rather well...at least according to PFF.

PFF has Andrew Whitworth coming in at #5, 2nd-best OT.
Kevin Zeitler also makes the top 25 at #23, 8th best OG.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-top-25-nfl-offensive-linemen-this-season/?utm_content=bufferafcf1&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=nfl

Both are set to become FAs at the end of the season. Hopefully they are the top two priorities for re-signing, as the Bengals desperately need to get the OL back on track.

(12-08-2016, 05:46 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: I second this. 

I hated on Dre more than anyone, but that dude has shown me something this year. He needs to be brought back. 

If we can sure up the O Line and get some more talent at linebacker and add to the defensive line rotation (dont forget about billings), then I think this team can get back on track. 

(12-08-2016, 05:44 PM)Stewy Wrote: Dre?  i find this interesting.  I haven't seen any of the games so I don't have a personal opinion on him, but people have been bashing him on here all year.  Are they wrong?  Has he gotten better as the year has gone on?  I'm curious.

(12-08-2016, 01:57 PM)ochocincos Wrote: In what's been a horrible year for the Cincinnati Bengals offensive line, two of them are performing rather well...at least according to PFF.

PFF has Andrew Whitworth coming in at #5, 2nd-best OT.
Kevin Zeitler also makes the top 25 at #23, 8th best OG.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-top-25-nfl-offensive-linemen-this-season/?utm_content=bufferafcf1&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=nfl

Both are set to become FAs at the end of the season. Hopefully they are the top two priorities for re-signing, as the Bengals desperately need to get the OL back on track.

(12-08-2016, 06:54 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: I've always been very outspoken on how I think Dre was a terrible draft pick (still is) BUT, he certainly has looked much better this year. Not great, but at the very least good. Still has a couple stupid plays that hurt the team here and there, but overall turned into a decent starting CB.

I'm hesitant because it took 5 years, and his contract year, for him to finally be a decent starter, and you always have to be cautious with guys who play better their contract year than they have ever played before... but that said, unless he wants stupid money, you probably need to look at re-signing him.


As for Zeitler, unless the rest of the league has had just a huge dropoff in guard play this year, I don't see how he's 8th. Bengals stopped contract conversation with him after DeCastro got that $10m/yr deal, so I think Zeitler is going to chase the money.

Whitworth is the priority over Zeitler. Don't know how Westerman will be, but there shouldn't be a huge dropoff from Zeitler, if any. Meanwhile, we KNOW how terrible Ogbuehi is, and that's who would be protecting Dalton's back if Whitworth leaves.


Whitworth + Westerman > Ogbuehi + Zeitler

And with how terrible Ogbuehi is, and how well Whit has continued playing, it's not even close.

(12-09-2016, 01:51 PM)Hammerstripes Wrote: The one thing I will say about Dre is that although it did take him a few years, he has been improving every year - plus I like the fact that he actually makes some big plays.  I've watched all the games this year,  and I can't really remember cussing him out that much.

(12-09-2016, 02:09 PM)bengals67 Wrote: I don't know if it is because he is playing between two below average players but Zeitler has had some real stinkers this season.

He is not worth top money for right guard, whatever that may be.

I don't see how they pay him more than what they paid Bolling

Hammerstripes Wrote:I'm not worried about Whit leaving.  I think he has a spot here as long as he wants and I also think that he will get 1-year deals until his career is over.  Mike Brown is famous for taking care of guys like Whit.

The priority needs to be Zeitler and Dre.  I really think Dre has turned into one of the better CBs in the league, not elite, but definitely not middle of the road.

(12-09-2016, 02:22 PM)snowy Wrote: Agreed on all this. I also think the priorities should be Zeitler and Dre, but I think the Bengals might let Zeitler walk if necessary in order to sign Dre. I would have said exactly the opposite at the beginning of this season. Dre's actions annoy me, but his play has drastically improved. Anyway, players should be who they are, and not how we want them to be.

(12-08-2016, 06:54 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: I've always been very outspoken on how I think Dre was a terrible draft pick (still is) BUT, he certainly has looked much better this year. Not great, but at the very least good. Still has a couple stupid plays that hurt the team here and there, but overall turned into a decent starting CB.

I'm hesitant because it took 5 years, and his contract year, for him to finally be a decent starter, and you always have to be cautious with guys who play better their contract year than they have ever played before... but that said, unless he wants stupid money, you probably need to look at re-signing him.


As for Zeitler, unless the rest of the league has had just a huge dropoff in guard play this year, I don't see how he's 8th. Bengals stopped contract conversation with him after DeCastro got that $10m/yr deal, so I think Zeitler is going to chase the money.

Whitworth is the priority over Zeitler. Don't know how Westerman will be, but there shouldn't be a huge dropoff from Zeitler, if any. Meanwhile, we KNOW how terrible Ogbuehi is, and that's who would be protecting Dalton's back if Whitworth leaves.


Whitworth + Westerman > Ogbuehi + Zeitler

And with how terrible Ogbuehi is, and how well Whit has continued playing, it's not even close.

wolfkaosaun Wrote:...I always found it weird that people put their faith into PFF........unless it's about a player they don't like or personally feel are struggling...(snipped lots of good stuff for brevity)