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Guenther Staying Put! - bengalguy71 - 01-07-2017
http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/Report-Guenther-staying/c9d9a86c-ea5f-4291-8abc-f49c6045495e
RE: Guenther Staying Put! - Fan_in_Kettering - 01-07-2017
This isn't the worst thing to happen in the off season. Paul Guenther isn't the weakest coaching link in Cincinnati.
RE: Guenther Staying Put! - CageTheBengal - 01-07-2017
Works for me. The defense was pretty stout towards the end of the season.
Since the bye this is how much the defense gave up to each team...
Giants: 21
Bills: 16
Ravens: 19
Eagles: 14
Browns: 10
Steelers: 24
Texans: 12
Ravens: 10
RE: Guenther Staying Put! - SunsetBengal - 01-07-2017
(01-07-2017, 01:42 PM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: This isn't the worst thing to happen in the off season. Paul Guenther isn't the weakest coaching link in Cincinnati.
Right, the adjustments he made, after the bye week, made a serious difference the rest of the season.
Now, if someone could only convince Coach Lewis that halftime adjustments are a good thing...
RE: Guenther Staying Put! - samhain - 01-07-2017
He's one of the better guys on the staff. We're better off with him staying.
Too bad they probably won't let him ditch Burney or Haslett.
RE: Guenther Staying Put! - grampahol - 01-07-2017
If the defense gets even better we can count on PG becoming someone else's head coach in 2018.
RE: Guenther Staying Put! - Fan_in_Kettering - 01-07-2017
(01-07-2017, 01:45 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Right, the adjustments he made, after the bye week, made a serious difference the rest of the season.
Now, if someone could only convince Coach Lewis that halftime adjustments are a good thing...
The trouble, Sunset, isn't a lack of halftime adjustments. The problem is making bad halftime adjustments.
The Bengals haven't had a strong second half since when? 2014?
Let's also give Paul Guenther credit for holding opposing offenses to a minimal amount of points considering the Cincinnati offense got off the field way too fast and often left the defense with horrible field position in Bengals' territory.
RE: Guenther Staying Put! - McC - 01-07-2017
(01-07-2017, 01:45 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Right, the adjustments he made, after the bye week, made a serious difference the rest of the season.
Now, if someone could only convince Coach Lewis that halftime adjustments are a good thing...
...or even an actual thing.
RE: Guenther Staying Put! - Beaker - 01-07-2017
I applaud this move. PG does a good job with the D.
RE: Guenther Staying Put! - Stewy - 01-07-2017
(01-07-2017, 01:45 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Right, the adjustments he made, after the bye week, made a serious difference the rest of the season.
Now, if someone could only convince Coach Lewis that halftime adjustments are a good thing...
He does adjust. He tells the offense to burn the clock and take no chances. He just doesnt adjust to the other team.
RE: Guenther Staying Put! - leonardfan40 - 01-07-2017
Did he actually want to go or are they just saying the redskins asked to interview him and the bengals denied them permission?
RE: Guenther Staying Put! - StoneTheCrow - 01-07-2017
(01-07-2017, 01:44 PM)CageTheBengal Wrote: Works for me. The defense was pretty stout towards the end of the season.
Since the bye this is how much the defense gave up to each team...
Giants: 21
Bills: 16
Ravens: 19
Eagles: 14
Browns: 10
Steelers: 24
Texans: 12
Ravens: 10
Welp. That should've been 7-1 at the very least.
RE: Guenther Staying Put! - coachmcneil71 - 01-07-2017
(01-07-2017, 01:49 PM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: The trouble, Sunset, isn't a lack of halftime adjustments. The problem is making bad halftime adjustments.
The Bengals haven't had a strong second half since when? 2014?
Let's also give Paul Guenther credit for holding opposing offenses to a minimal amount of points considering the Cincinnati offense got off the field way too fast and often left the defense with horrible field position in Bengals' territory.
I have to respectfully disagree with your first and second sentence. Marvin basically admitted that he doesnt believe in HT adjustments in his own presser.
Im paraphrasing but he basically called HT adjustments, " a mythical assumption that fans make up". As I said I'm paraphrasing but that's how it came across.
The man sets a game plan and when the other team adjusts in the second half he has no answers. We've watched it time and time again and you can bet the rest of the league knows this.
Otherwise I agree with you.
RE: Guenther Staying Put! - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 01-07-2017
Geunther will be our next HC in 2018.
It will be an upgrade too.
RE: Guenther Staying Put! - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 01-07-2017
(01-07-2017, 04:41 PM)coachmcneil71 Wrote: I have to respectfully disagree with your first and second sentence. Marvin basically admitted that he doesnt believe in HT adjustments in his own presser.
Im paraphrasing but he basically called HT adjustments, " a mythical assumption that fans make up". As I said I'm paraphrasing but that's how it came across.
The man sets a game plan and when the other team adjusts in the second half he has no answers. We've watched it time and time again and you can bet the rest of the league knows this.
Otherwise I agree with you.
I think Marv called it "journalistic jargon".
Halftime adjustments that is. :andy:
Doesn't exist man. What is in-game adjustments? He has no clue.
RE: Guenther Staying Put! - jason - 01-07-2017
(01-07-2017, 01:45 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Right, the adjustments he made, after the bye week, made a serious difference the rest of the season.Or they can convince Marvin not to step on Paulie's toes when he wants to make personnel changes.
Now, if someone could only convince Coach Lewis that halftime adjustments are a good thing...
RE: Guenther Staying Put! - treee - 01-07-2017
Wish Paul G. would have called more aggressive defenses sometimes, but overall I think he can field a competitive unit and agree that keeping him for next year isn't the worst thing.
RE: Guenther Staying Put! - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 01-07-2017
(01-07-2017, 04:58 PM)jason Wrote: Or they can convince Marvin not to step on Paulie's toes when he wants to make personnel changes.
Exactly, remember at the bye when Paulie G was trying to change things up and play some new players
and Marv shot that down and said something like that isn't going to happen.
Just happy Guenther kept on keepin on and the Defense turned it around with his lead. Great job by him
even more so with getting stabbed in the back by the Marv.
RE: Guenther Staying Put! - SunsetBengal - 01-07-2017
(01-07-2017, 04:41 PM)coachmcneil71 Wrote: I have to respectfully disagree with your first and second sentence. Marvin basically admitted that he doesnt believe in HT adjustments in his own presser.
Im paraphrasing but he basically called HT adjustments, " a mythical assumption that fans make up". As I said I'm paraphrasing but that's how it came across.
The man sets a game plan and when the other team adjusts in the second half he has no answers. We've watched it time and time again and you can bet the rest of the league knows this.
Otherwise I agree with you.
(01-07-2017, 04:56 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I think Marv called it "journalistic jargon".
Halftime adjustments that is. :andy:
Doesn't exist man. What is in-game adjustments? He has no clue.
Well, you know that allowing an opponent to force you off of your game plan would be like admitting that they game planned better than you did, or acknowledging that they were just physically superior that day. Now we all know good and well that the correct answer is "We just have to work harder"...
RE: Guenther Staying Put! - Bengalholic - 01-07-2017
(01-07-2017, 04:54 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Geunther will be our next HC in 2018.
It will be an upgrade too.
I agree that Guenther is probably being groomed to the next HC of the Bengals, but I don't know about it being an upgrade. Paulie has been with, and been mentored by Marvin for a long time.
Maybe he will have is own unique style and not just be Marvin 2.0, but all in all, I would rather see someone from outside the organization....with not ties to the previous 14 years.
