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Companies Are Recycling Their Old News to Avoid Being Blasted in a Trump Tweet - GMDino - 01-18-2017 http://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/companies-are-recycling-their-old-news-avoid-being-blasted-trump-n707921 Quote:It's a "first strike" approach to jobs. RE: Companies Are Recycling Their Old News to Avoid Being Blasted in a Trump Tweet - Mike M (the other one) - 01-18-2017 Spin Spin Spin, both sides will do it to show their favor. It really doesn't matter to me as long as the job count keeps growing. But Wait, are you saying that Obama didn't create any because those companies that created the jobs were going to already? RE: Companies Are Recycling Their Old News to Avoid Being Blasted in a Trump Tweet - GMDino - 01-18-2017 (01-18-2017, 03:23 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Spin Spin Spin, both sides will do it to show their favor. I'm saying the economy has been growing (albeit slowly) for most of Obama's time in office. And the right ran on "America is awful". Now those exact same numbers and growth are being co-opted by the PE to say that he along made it happen. I am fully aware that the POTUS has a limited ability to control the economy. He gets too much credit when things go well and too much blame when things go bad. However it's a good example of Trump's inability to recognize it. RE: Companies Are Recycling Their Old News to Avoid Being Blasted in a Trump Tweet - Mike M (the other one) - 01-18-2017 (01-18-2017, 03:54 PM)GMDino Wrote: I'm saying the economy has been growing (albeit slowly) for most of Obama's time in office. Well after he has a meeting with them, and they announce jobs (whether they were going to or not), I'd say he should get partial credit for that. Make up your mind, I thought you all said that "Make America Great Again" means make America White again. No where did the Right ever say that "America is Awful", that's just your spin. To me it means bringing back jobs and boosting the Economy. Obama had 8 years to get the Economy moving, and the best Obama could do was go on record for being the first POTUS to not have a single year of economic growth better than 3.0%. His Annual Average will finish @ 1.55%, where as Reagan had 8 years with an Annual Average of 3.5%. Both inherited an economic recession early in their terms. RE: Companies Are Recycling Their Old News to Avoid Being Blasted in a Trump Tweet - Au165 - 01-18-2017 I have more of an issue with the fact he is on social media acting like a complete jackass. It is embarrassing. RE: Companies Are Recycling Their Old News to Avoid Being Blasted in a Trump Tweet - GMDino - 01-18-2017 (01-18-2017, 04:31 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Well after he has a meeting with them, and they announce jobs (whether they were going to or not), I'd say he should get partial credit for that. No. No he doesn't get "partial credit". I visited a friend who's wife told me they were pregnant so I took partial credit cause I talked to them before the announced it but after my visit. ![]() (01-18-2017, 04:31 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Make up your mind, I thought you all said that "Make America Great Again" means make America White again. No where did the Right ever say that "America is Awful", that's just your spin. To me it means bringing back jobs and boosting the Economy. Well I'm not sure I ever said that...I'm sure it was said since no one seems to know what time America was "Great". Also plenty on the right still think the economy was worse under Obama than it was. (01-18-2017, 04:31 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Obama had 8 years to get the Economy moving, and the best Obama could do was go on record for being the first POTUS to not have a single year of economic growth better than 3.0%. His Annual Average will finish @ 1.55%, where as Reagan had 8 years with an Annual Average of 3.5%. Both inherited an economic recession early in their terms. And inherited them almost three decades apart. Different economic times...different world economics. Hell, different political climate where the current POTUS was stopped at every turn by the other party. And the economy STILL improved. Imagine if the GOP had tried to work with him and reach some compromises? However, none of that changes the fact that PE Trump wants to take credit for plans made two plus years ago. And you'll give him "partial credit" for going to a meeting before it was announced. ![]() RE: Companies Are Recycling Their Old News to Avoid Being Blasted in a Trump Tweet - GMDino - 01-18-2017 (01-18-2017, 04:37 PM)Au165 Wrote: I have more of an issue with the fact he is on social media acting like a complete jackass. It is embarrassing. None of his supporters care about that. They think it makes him look/sound tough and all they care about is the image of the tough guy American. RE: Companies Are Recycling Their Old News to Avoid Being Blasted in a Trump Tweet - Au165 - 01-18-2017 (01-18-2017, 05:14 PM)GMDino Wrote: None of his supporters care about that. They think it makes him look/sound tough and all they care about is the image of the tough guy American. I'm not even looking at it from a partisan view. If the president of the company you work for did that kind of stuff online you'd be embarrassed for your company, this is the same thing at a much larger scale. RE: Companies Are Recycling Their Old News to Avoid Being Blasted in a Trump Tweet - GMDino - 01-18-2017 (01-18-2017, 05:17 PM)Au165 Wrote: I'm not even looking at it from a partisan view. If the president of the company you work for did that kind of stuff online you'd be embarrassed for your company, this is the same thing at a much larger scale. I totally agree. But millions of people seem to think it's okay. And they vote. I don't think they think things through...but they vote. RE: Companies Are Recycling Their Old News to Avoid Being Blasted in a Trump Tweet - Mike M (the other one) - 01-19-2017 (01-18-2017, 05:13 PM)GMDino Wrote: No. No he doesn't get "partial credit". I visited a friend who's wife told me they were pregnant so I took partial credit cause I talked to them before the announced it but after my visit. Oh now comparing Pregnancy to a company creating jobs. That's a wonderful analogy. ![]() America was great when we had jobs and companies were re-investing their dollars back into our economy. That didn't happen on Obama's watch, which is why his unemployment rates went up and now we are just back to where it was when he started. Obama did nothing to stop the flow of jobs leaving. In fact, he told people there was nothing that could be done about it right? Bi-partisanship takes 2 to tango, Obama never showed that he was willing to work with Republicans, you know the "I've got a pen and a phone" method. Both (Reagan and Obama) inherited an economy suffering from Unemployment and a year of no growth. However, Reagan's had inflation in the double digits and Prime interest rate at 21%. Obama inherited an economy where inflation was dropping (we're reaching a point now where we are considering calling it deflation) and the interest rate was also very low. Reagan had a Democratic Majority in the House for his entire term and a Republican Majority in Senate until 87, then it was a Democratic Majority for the rest of his term. Somehow he managed to get everyone to the table and it took him the first 2 years to get the Democrats to pass any of his economic plans. In contrast, Obama started with a Democratic Majority in both the House and Senate. Republicans got the Majority back on the House in 2011 and regained Senate Control in 2015. He had plenty of time to get things done with a Democratic Majority in his first 3 years. So imagine what Obama could've accomplished in his first 3 years with a Majority in Congress, if he had really wanted to focus on getting the Economy moving? RE: Companies Are Recycling Their Old News to Avoid Being Blasted in a Trump Tweet - GMDino - 01-19-2017 (01-19-2017, 01:40 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Oh now comparing Pregnancy to a company creating jobs. That's a wonderful analogy. Ok, I was in my boss's office before they announced the purchase of another company. A deal they worked on for two years. I took credit because they talked to me before the told anyone else. Better? ![]() (01-19-2017, 01:40 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: America was great when we had jobs and companies were re-investing their dollars back into our economy. That didn't happen on Obama's watch, which is why his unemployment rates went up and now we are just back to where it was when he started. Obama did nothing to stop the flow of jobs leaving. In fact, he told people there was nothing that could be done about it right? Well, no. That's wrong. He and the Democrats tried several times to get job bills passed or bills to get companies back in America. The G-No-P blocked all of them. All of them. (01-19-2017, 01:40 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Bi-partisanship takes 2 to tango, Obama never showed that he was willing to work with Republicans, you know the "I've got a pen and a phone" method. Which came after years of Republicans trying to make him a "one term President". You can try all you want, but the wall won't talk back. That's what Obama was facing from day one. (01-19-2017, 01:40 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Both (Reagan and Obama) inherited an economy suffering from Unemployment and a year of no growth. However, Reagan's had inflation in the double digits and Prime interest rate at 21%. Obama inherited an economy where inflation was dropping (we're reaching a point now where we are considering calling it deflation) and the interest rate was also very low. Like I said, it was a different time. Different economy, different ideas on working with the other side. Reagan also started the continuing gap between workers and owners. Along with the destruction of unions. And many other ideologies that have led to where we are today. (01-19-2017, 01:40 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: So imagine what Obama could've accomplished in his first 3 years with a Majority in Congress, if he had really wanted to focus on getting the Economy moving? Well since it wasn't three years...or two....I guess we'll never know? http://www.ohio.com/blogs/mass-destruction/blog-of-mass-destruction-1.298992/when-obama-had-total-control-of-congress-1.332977 Quote:Starting January 2009, at the beginning of the 111th Congress, in the month that Barack Obama was inaugurated president, the House of Representatives was made up of 257 Democrats and 178 Republicans. There is no question that Democrats had total control in the House from 2009-2011. tl;dr: Obama could get things passed with the GOP for 4 months our of eight years. The rest of the time they stonewalled everything he tried. Carry on. RE: Companies Are Recycling Their Old News to Avoid Being Blasted in a Trump Tweet - Mike M (the other one) - 01-19-2017 (01-19-2017, 02:05 PM)GMDino Wrote: Ok, I was in my boss's office before they announced the purchase of another company. A deal they worked on for two years. I took credit because they talked to me before the told anyone else. Better? Yes, better, but were you in a position of power to possibly have an influence on the decision? (01-19-2017, 02:05 PM)GMDino Wrote: Well, no. That's wrong. He and the Democrats tried several times to get job bills passed or bills to get companies back in America. The G-No-P blocked all of them. All of them. Yes he started the Gap between middle and upper class, but from the start to end of Bush 1, it started going back towards the middle class, then along come Clinton, who pushed it right over the edge by allowing companies to outsource jobs. the Gap Tripled under Clinton. Then was flat again during Bush's term. Then Whoops!! The Gap between Middle and Upper class reached a high under Obama at 6.6 times the middle class on 2014. (01-19-2017, 02:05 PM)GMDino Wrote: Well since it wasn't three years...or two....I guess we'll never know? Well then, he had ample time to get bills ready for that 4 month window. Or maybe he should've learned how to work with them instead of against them (Republicans that is). Pass a few of ours, we'll pass a few of yours etc. Didn't seem to stop Clinton either and the Republicans had the Majority in Congress for his entire term. RE: Companies Are Recycling Their Old News to Avoid Being Blasted in a Trump Tweet - Griever - 01-19-2017 (01-19-2017, 04:10 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Yes, better, but were you in a position of power to possibly have an influence on the decision? i think it had more to do with the republicans refusing to work with him hell he had a supreme court justice die and the republicans stole the ability to nominate from him (when he put up a pretty moderate option) RE: Companies Are Recycling Their Old News to Avoid Being Blasted in a Trump Tweet - GMDino - 01-19-2017 (01-19-2017, 04:10 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Yes, better, but were you in a position of power to possibly have an influence on the decision? Doesn't matter. Decision was made long before I knew..I just get "partial credit" for attending the meeting. (01-19-2017, 04:10 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Yes he started the Gap between middle and upper class, but from the start to end of Bush 1, it started going back towards the middle class, then along come Clinton, who pushed it right over the edge by allowing companies to outsource jobs. the Gap Tripled under Clinton. Then was flat again during Bush's term. Then Whoops!! The Gap between Middle and Upper class reached a high under Obama at 6.6 times the middle class on 2014. yeah...just because I say you can do something doesn't mean you have too. I thought conservatives were all about personal responsibility? Weirdest thing though...it starts going back up right about the time the GOP took over congress again during Clinton's term and then again two years into Bush's first term. Strange. (01-19-2017, 04:10 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Well then, he had ample time to get bills ready for that 4 month window. Or maybe he should've learned how to work with them instead of against them (Republicans that is). Pass a few of ours, we'll pass a few of yours etc. Yeah, that's called compromise. I suppose it might have been worth a try if the GOP hadn't announced they wouldn't support anything he offered. If I TOLD you that would say no every time you wanted something, and then followed up by doing that, when would you stop trying to "compromise" with me? That didn't happen to Reagan, either Bush or Clinton. RE: Companies Are Recycling Their Old News to Avoid Being Blasted in a Trump Tweet - Rotobeast - 01-19-2017 (01-19-2017, 04:10 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Didn't seem to stop Clinton either and the Republicans had the Majority in Congress for his entire term. Bubba handed out tickets to Epstein's island, for compromise. Sent from my SM-S820L using Tapatalk RE: Companies Are Recycling Their Old News to Avoid Being Blasted in a Trump Tweet - Benton - 01-19-2017 (01-19-2017, 01:40 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: America was great when we had jobs and companies were re-investing their dollars back into our economy. That didn't happen on Obama's watch, which is why his unemployment rates went up and now we are just back to where it was when he started. Eh, both major parties are to blame there. Go back to Reagan taking out labor's ability to negotiate with management, then skip forward nearly two decades to Dems & Republicans working together with Clinton to pass NAFTA. And just like Obama saying there was nothing he could do about it, McConnell said creating jobs wasn't his job. Both major parties talk about job creation in the same way a guy compliments a drunk girl. |