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84% Constitution
80% Republican
64% Libertarians
64% Democrats
55% Green
13% Socialist
Ideology is pretty much a centrist.
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Which sounds about right. Overall, I tend to favor less government intervention unless it's for national or international commerce or resources, less government intervention in other countries, less defense spending, etc.
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(05-18-2015, 01:45 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: There is a lot within the platform that lines up with classical liberalism, but they aren't as economically free as classical liberals (which is where my disagreements come into play with them).
Essentially, the Green Party is filled with classical liberals that feel the private sector has failed in upholding the rights of the people.
Never! The invisible hand cares about the trees and the happiness of the people. Didn't you know? /s
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Just had my boss do this quiz. His results...
Republican 99%
Constitution 94%
No surprise there.
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(05-18-2015, 05:06 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Just had my boss do this quiz. His results...
Republican 99%
Constitution 94%
No surprise there.
I take my kids the computer lab and have them do this for our political parties lesson.
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(05-17-2015, 11:53 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: http://www.isidewith.com/political-quiz
My results:
85% Libertarian
75% Green
I took this quiz during the last presidential election. I got 92% Libertarian. I have always been a registered independent, but it persuaded me to research Gary Johnson. Since I had no viable independent representation, and refuse to give a vote to the duopoly of corruption, I voted for him after reading his platform. At least it led me to learning about a candidate that was semi compatible with my views.....next was the Green Party, but it was in the upper 70s percentage wise.
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(05-18-2015, 01:45 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: There is a lot within the platform that lines up with classical liberalism, but they aren't as economically free as classical liberals (which is where my disagreements come into play with them).
Essentially, the Green Party is filled with classical liberals that feel the private sector has failed in upholding the rights of the people.
After reading this I looked at the Green Party issues and I see lots of progressive ideas there.... And if that's the case than a classic liberal would be oil to the progressive water. I just don't see classic liberalism displayed.
Seems green party has been the uber progressives.
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(05-18-2015, 09:06 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: After reading this I looked at the Green Party issues and I see lots of progressive ideas there.... And if that's the case than a classic liberal would be oil to the progressive water. I just don't see classic liberalism displayed.
Seems green party has been the uber progressives.
The main difference is the level of government intervention in the free market. Individual rights, non-interventionism, those things are key for the Green Party. They just don't trust the people to uphold those on their own because, well, history.
"A great democracy has got to be progressive, or it will soon cease to be either great or a democracy..." - TR
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(05-18-2015, 09:27 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: The main difference is the level of government intervention in the free market. Individual rights, non-interventionism, those things are key for the Green Party. They just don't trust the people to uphold those on their own because, well, history.
Trusting people to handle their own stuff is what a classical liberal is.... A progressive wants a heavy gov hand.
http://www.ontheissues.org/green_party.htm
Other than legal abortions.... Not sure there is one classic liberal policy listed.
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(05-18-2015, 09:27 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: The main difference is the level of government intervention in the free market. Individual rights, non-interventionism, those things are key for the Green Party. They just don't trust the people to uphold those on their own because, well, history.
^IMO
I should look into this Green Party more I suppose. But they lack the "brand name".
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(05-18-2015, 09:06 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: After reading this I looked at the Green Party issues and I see lots of progressive ideas there.... And if that's the case than a classic liberal would be oil to the progressive water. I just don't see classic liberalism displayed.
Seems green party has been the uber progressives.
The classic brand names are now challenged by divisions within themselves.
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(05-18-2015, 07:53 PM)Wyche Wrote: I took this quiz during the last presidential election. I got 92% Libertarian. I have always been a registered independent, but it persuaded me to research Gary Johnson. Since I had no viable independent representation, and refuse to give a vote to the duopoly of corruption, I voted for him after reading his platform. At least it led me to learning about a candidate that was semi compatible with my views.....next was the Green Party, but it was in the upper 70s percentage wise.
Gary was a great candidate. Sadly, 99 and 3/4% of America never heard of him. So, I admire you voting for him even as it is a bit of folly. I think there are some great libertarian principles, sadly though the party at a national level seems to have been co-opted by lunatics for whom the right wing of the GOP is not insanely enough in the service of the wealthy.
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(05-18-2015, 09:33 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Trusting people to handle their own stuff is what a classical liberal is.... A progressive wants a heavy gov hand.
http://www.ontheissues.org/green_party.htm
Other than legal abortions.... Not sure there is one classic liberal policy listed.
Then you're not understanding what classical liberalism is about. This isn't uncommon because most people don't think about the base ideals as applied to modern day issues. It's a bit more difficult to look through that lens.
But to be fair, there is a thread of classical liberalism through all parties in the U.S. because our country was founded upon those ideals.
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Gary was more qualified than most GOP candidates in 2012, but they left him out and he went libertarian. He'd be the most qualified candidate in 2016 if he ran as a republican, but no one knows who he is.
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100% The Rent's Too Damn High Party.
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(05-18-2015, 10:07 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Gary was more qualified than most GOP candidates in 2012, but they left him out and he went libertarian. He'd be the most qualified candidate in 2016 if he ran as a republican, but no one knows who he is.
Which is so very sad. I would love to see him get more attention, especially when faced with the pretenders the GOP is putting out.
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85%
Constitution Party
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76%
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(05-18-2015, 09:52 PM)xxlt Wrote: Gary was a great candidate. Sadly, 99 and 3/4% of America never heard of him. So, I admire you voting for him even as it is a bit of folly. I think there are some great libertarian principles, sadly though the party at a national level seems to have been co-opted by lunatics for whom the right wing of the GOP is not insanely enough in the service of the wealthy.
Agree wholeheartedly. The main issue I have with the Libertarian Party is the free trade stance. I am more for fair trade policies, but otherwise, I obviously share a lot of their views. People can say I threw my vote away, but I say voting for "the lesser of two evils" is throwing my vote away.....because, at the end of the day, it's still an evil. As long as I can sleep well at night knowing I voted the way I feel, and not just because, I'm good. Isn't voting for something you don't believe in whatsoever REALLY throwing your vote away?
Hey, I'm used to not going the popular route.....I am, after all, a Bengals fan!
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If more people voted for their candidate instead of voting for the popular (D) or ®, then we wouldnt have the two party system we have now. It's just easier for regular people to lump themselves in with the Democrats or Republicans than it is to actually think, they just want to say "Close enough". That's the way the Democrats and Republicans like it too.
Never forget what Hitler said, "What good fortune for those in power that the people do not think".
How scary is that?
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Take us the foxes, the little foxes, that spoil the vines: for our vines have tender grapes.
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