Storming Of The Capitol Building

[Truck_1_0_1_]

(01-12-2021, 11:03 PM)BigPapaKain Wrote: Good luck. The Mounties don't **** around with illegal crossing.

(01-13-2021, 01:29 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: And yet Canada is considered so much more benevolent and progressive than the US.  You don't have to tell me though.  I had a friend working on a film in Toronto a few years back.  They discovered he had a DUI from over a decade from that time and revoked his visa.  The Mounties literally came and got him and escorted him out of Canada within six hours of his being notified.

Both cases, wouldn't have been the RCMP (well actually, the second sitch may have been...); first would be CBSA (same as your TSA), second would have been OPP (same as your State Police), though I will say, that if the FBI are the ones to remove people in these situations in the US, then it may have been the RCMP.

(01-13-2021, 08:33 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: I love Canada. Been there a number of times and I have enjoyed all of it. They are more progressive than the US in some ways, but people who think of it as this liberal haven have another thing coming. Canada is a lot more like the US than most people tend to realize.

Bingo; you'd be floored at how many think exactly like the insurrectionists/terrorists/rioters/whatever, many I know personally... and my sister-in-law has been going out with a hardcore Trumper since 2014.

He's Canadian, with no ties to the US. And a complete asshole, POS human being.

(01-13-2021, 09:02 AM)BigPapaKain Wrote: That perception of Canada has less to do with their immigration laws and more to do with their shockingly low homicide/violent crime rate and universal health care (or at least, that's how it seems to me).

Well, when tax dollars are put towards proper things and handguns are illegal...

(01-13-2021, 09:12 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: That's pretty much the beginning and the end. When you look at their politics, some of the same stuff that our government screws up, they do as well.

I just think it's less-egregious here; down there, you guys see the effect that these blunders have had, happen almost immediately. Here, unless you are poor/homeless/along those lines, nothing ever changes: barring a debilitating health issue or losing your job, your life doesn't change here, if you're the middle class.

(01-13-2021, 11:43 AM)GMDino Wrote: Yes but what if you know someone who was breaking the law! 

All seriousness aside you have to wait up to ten years just to enter the country if you had a DUI in another country (10 years being the max sentence there for the crime).  They ARE strict but hey, "law and order" amiright?   Although I've heard some horror stories about the police there also "turning a blind eye" to some of the "lesser" citizens in certain parts of the country/city when they are needing help.  Every country has it's problems.

They make up for it by having, as you say, low homicide rates and universal healthcare and the majority of the citizens there seem to like it.

My wife and I had talked about a trip to the Canadian side of Niagara Falls after going to the US side in 2019.  2020 nipped that in the bud.  Our company does business there and the boss has never had anything but nice things to say about it as a visitor/tourist.

Jim Cornette has had issues coming up for wrestling events, in the past 15-20 years, due to him getting into fights with fans and the like (I don't {or ever have} listen to his podcast, but he's mentioned on there, quite a bit of what's happened).

Ugh, Niagara is nothing but wax museums and over-priced crap. To TRULY enjoy our country, get away from NF . Toronto is only about an hour away from NF (if you drive well) and it really is a nice city (it has its bad areas like anywhere else, but on the whole, it's great; my favourite place on the planet). If you love wilderness, you'd need to get a good hour and a half-2 hours north of Toronto, to see the lovely Canadian Shield lakes, rocks and the like. Going east, you see things very similar to the NE US (like in Maine and upstate NY). If you want mountains, you need to head out west to Alberta and BC, but that can't be done in the same trip, unless you plan on flying or staying for 1 month.

Lots to see and do :)

(01-13-2021, 11:50 AM)Nately120 Wrote: Yea I'd say the liberal paradise notion could be dispelled by the treatment of their own indigenous people by the powers that be, but ehh...

That is the only well-documented negative stain on our treatment of citizens; the aboriginals are worse than an afterthought, in the majority of rural Canada, sadly.

Some racial issues have come to light in the past year (black and Indian treatment, for starters), but there hasn't been a well-documented, systemic set of issues on that front (or maybe there has, but again; nothing that the general public is aware of).

[Rotobeast]

(01-13-2021, 12:19 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: Both cases, wouldn't have been the RCMP (well actually, the second sitch may have been...); first would be CBSA (same as your TSA), second would have been OPP (same as your State Police), though I will say, that if the FBI are the ones to remove people in these situations in the US, then it may have been the RCMP.


Bingo; you'd be floored at how many think exactly like the insurrectionists/terrorists/rioters/whatever, many I know personally... and my sister-in-law has been going out with a hardcore Trumper since 2014.

He's Canadian, with no ties to the US. And a complete asshole, POS human being.


Well, when tax dollars are put towards proper things and handguns are illegal...


I just think it's less-egregious here; down there, you guys see the effect that these blunders have had, happen almost immediately. Here, unless you are poor/homeless/along those lines, nothing ever changes: barring a debilitating health issue or losing your job, your life doesn't change here, if you're the middle class.


Jim Cornette has had issues coming up for wrestling events, in the past 15-20 years, due to him getting into fights with fans and the like (I don't {or ever have} listen to his podcast, but he's mentioned on there, quite a bit of what's happened).

Ugh, Niagara is nothing but wax museums and over-priced crap. To TRULY enjoy our country, get away from NF . Toronto is only about an hour away from NF (if you drive well) and it really is a nice city (it has its bad areas like anywhere else, but on the whole, it's great; my favourite place on the planet). If you love wilderness, you'd need to get a good hour and a half-2 hours north of Toronto, to see the lovely Canadian Shield lakes, rocks and the like. Going east, you see things very similar to the NE US (like in Maine and upstate NY). If you want mountains, you need to head out west to Alberta and BC, but that can't be done in the same trip, unless you plan on flying or staying for 1 month.

Lots to see and do :)


That is the only well-documented negative stain on our treatment of citizens; the aboriginals are worse than an afterthought, in the majority of rural Canada, sadly.

Some racial issues have come to light in the past year (black and Indian treatment, for starters), but there hasn't been a well-documented, systemic set of issues on that front (or maybe there has, but again; nothing that the general public is aware of).

Is touring the "Canadian Castles" worth the effort ?
I'd imagine they are spread out across the country ?
I hadn't researched it, but thought it looked interesting a few years back.

[Truck_1_0_1_]

(01-13-2021, 12:24 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: Is touring the "Canadian Castles" worth the effort ?
I'd imagine they are spread out across the country ?
I hadn't researched it, but thought it looked interesting a few years back.

Wow, that's actually a thing?

AFAIR, 2 are in BC and the rest are in Ontario and Quebec (EDIT* finding out about LL, then I guess there is one in Alberta as well!) (as they were Upper/Lower Canada, respectively... basically lol and that was where the colonisers spent the first 150-200 or so years in the country, before heading west), which makes sense, but IMO, Notre Dame in Montreal is the only classic architectural building in Canada, that is worth visiting (not a castle, obviously). Casa Loma is considered one of the, "Canadian Castles," and it is really just a big house and tourist trap; basically, if you're expecting castles like in Europe, you will be very disappointed

I see that the hotel at Lake Louise is considered one of said castles; it is truly a majestic place and I LOVED the brief moments I spent inside (renting skates and sitting down in the lobby/foyer, waiting for my wife to get out of the washroom), as I have never spent any time in a high-class hotel in my life, but it too is inundated with tourists and the lake is better to look at anyways

And yes; you will need to go cross-country to see all of them, thus unless you plan on flying a lot or spending a full month here, it's too much to do

[JS-Steelerfan]

(01-11-2021, 11:32 AM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: Trump Derangement Syndrome has, for years now, referred to the Trump supporters themselves, because only a deranged person could support that man.

I like to refer to it as “Trump Delusional Syndrome”.

[Rotobeast]

(01-13-2021, 12:54 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: Wow, that's actually a thing?

AFAIR, 2 are in BC and the rest are in Ontario and Quebec (EDIT* finding out about LL, then I guess there is one in Alberta as well!) (as they were Upper/Lower Canada, respectively... basically lol and that was where the colonisers spent the first 150-200 or so years in the country, before heading west), which makes sense, but IMO, Notre Dame in Montreal is the only classic architectural building in Canada, that is worth visiting (not a castle, obviously). Casa Loma is considered one of the, "Canadian Castles," and it is really just a big house and tourist trap; basically, if you're expecting castles like in Europe, you will be very disappointed

I see that the hotel at Lake Louise is considered one of said castles; it is truly a majestic place and I LOVED the brief moments I spent inside (renting skates and sitting down in the lobby/foyer, waiting for my wife to get out of the washroom), as I have never spent any time in a high-class hotel in my life, but it too is inundated with tourists and the lake is better to look at anyways

And yes; you will need to go cross-country to see all of them, thus unless you plan on flying a lot or spending a full month here, it's too much to do

Thanks, Truck !
That's how I thought it would be, but you know how important it is to humor certain things from the wife...lol
We will just start with hitting Windsor and Toronto areas.

[*michaelsean*]

(01-13-2021, 09:02 AM)BigPapaKain Wrote: That perception of Canada has less to do with their immigration laws and more to do with their shockingly low homicide/violent crime rate and universal health care (or at least, that's how it seems to me).

Watch "The Case That Haunts Me" on ID.  Buncha damn monsters up there.  

[GMDino]

To be fair, you can hardly expect a cop to anticipate potentially suffering a consequencehttps://t.co/p0k6I8gtlS

— LightlyThreatenHat (@Popehat) January 14, 2021

 

The quoted tweet has an image with a naughty word in it so you can click at your own risk.

Here is what the guy said:




Along with a photo of him and a friend telling us how many times they've made mad, passionate love to each other apparently....

[GMDino]

"what are you gonna do... arrest me?" - Woman Arrested https://t.co/h4igNifsCm

— David Frum Will Never Be Forgiven (@Ugarles) January 14, 2021

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(01-13-2021, 10:10 PM)GMDino Wrote:

To be fair, you can hardly expect a cop to anticipate potentially suffering a consequencehttps://t.co/p0k6I8gtlS

— LightlyThreatenHat (@Popehat) January 14, 2021

 

The quoted tweet has an image with a naughty word in it so you can click at your own risk.

Here is what the guy said:




Along with a photo of him and a friend telling us how many times they've made mad, passionate love to each other apparently....

Yeah, you don't hate "cops" but routinely quote people who do.  BTW, love the sig.  Living rent free in your head is interesting, but boring.  

[Tiger Teeth]

(01-13-2021, 12:54 PM)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: Wow, that's actually a thing?

AFAIR, 2 are in BC and the rest are in Ontario and Quebec (EDIT* finding out about LL, then I guess there is one in Alberta as well!) (as they were Upper/Lower Canada, respectively... basically lol and that was where the colonisers spent the first 150-200 or so years in the country, before heading west), which makes sense, but IMO, Notre Dame in Montreal is the only classic architectural building in Canada, that is worth visiting (not a castle, obviously). Casa Loma is considered one of the, "Canadian Castles," and it is really just a big house and tourist trap; basically, if you're expecting castles like in Europe, you will be very disappointed

I see that the hotel at Lake Louise is considered one of said castles; it is truly a majestic place and I LOVED the brief moments I spent inside (renting skates and sitting down in the lobby/foyer, waiting for my wife to get out of the washroom), as I have never spent any time in a high-class hotel in my life, but it too is inundated with tourists and the lake is better to look at anyways

And yes; you will need to go cross-country to see all of them, thus unless you plan on flying a lot or spending a full month here, it's too much to do

I'm packing first thing in the morning.

[GMDino]

(01-13-2021, 10:10 PM)GMDino Wrote:

To be fair, you can hardly expect a cop to anticipate potentially suffering a consequencehttps://t.co/p0k6I8gtlS

— LightlyThreatenHat (@Popehat) January 14, 2021

 

The quoted tweet has an image with a naughty word in it so you can click at your own risk.

Here is what the guy said:




Along with a photo of him and a friend telling us how many times they've made mad, passionate love to each other apparently....

Story on these two actually being charged.

I heard, but I'm not the one making the decisions or doing the investigative journalism on this, that most of these people being charged are getting these light charges because it's easier and that they may/will face stiffer charges moving forward once they are in the system.

I don't know if that is specifically for these two but I wanted to add that to the overall conversation.

[GMDino]

Navarro was on FOX and still talking about how he believes Trump really won the election and "74 million people are mad".

And then you have this.

They are STILL making threats because they don't want any held accountable.

"If you want to end the violence, end impeachment" is a threat framed as advice pic.twitter.com/QGS6Wlhzci

— Brendan Karet ? (@bad_takes) January 14, 2021

 

[GMDino]

This is NOT (from what I read) the same fire extinguisher used to kill the officer.

2) let this sink in— a man who dedicated him career to putting out fires ? now charged with assault for throwing a fire extinguisher ?. Can’t make this up folks. https://t.co/01uE6OeeeI

— Eric Feigl-Ding (@DrEricDing) January 14, 2021

 


Oh no!  Now I "hate" firefighters! 

[BmorePat87]

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/534237-lawmakers-introduce-resolution-to-award-capitol-police-officer-congressional?fbclid=IwAR2hge-EqCqTmPKDw8rwL7ApVg5XNleP9a7pWhImL62kuqsJUCY-yqyzRD8

Bipartisan bill to award the Congressional Gold Medal to Eugene Goodman, the Capitol officer who baited a group of the racial slur shouting terrorists to chase him up some stairs and away from the unsecured Senate chambers. He made them believe that the other hallway was where he didn't want them to go, prompting them to go in that direction.

[Belsnickel]

(01-14-2021, 02:38 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: https://thehill.com/homenews/house/534237-lawmakers-introduce-resolution-to-award-capitol-police-officer-congressional?fbclid=IwAR2hge-EqCqTmPKDw8rwL7ApVg5XNleP9a7pWhImL62kuqsJUCY-yqyzRD8

Bipartisan bill to award the Congressional Gold Medal to Eugene Goodman, the Capitol officer who baited a group of the racial slur shouting terrorists to chase him up some stairs and away from the unsecured Senate chambers. He made them believe that the other hallways was where he didn't want them to go, prompting them to go in that direction.

Definitely a no-brainer.

[GMDino]

(01-14-2021, 03:00 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Definitely a no-brainer.

Have we heard from Rand Paul about the cost of the medal yet though. Or if we want to set a precedent that officers that MISDIRECT people get awards??!?!  Don't we praise them in OTHER ways?!?!  

[BFritz21]

To all these, Trump called for a peaceful protest.

Police removed barrircade, so what's the natural reaction going to be? To go further.

If you'll look at the timeline of everything, you'll see that the police and guards at the Capitol start spraying the crowd with hoses when things didn't look like they were out of control, so you don't think that played a part in the crowd getting agitated?

You want Trump to have called for peace? How many of these protesters do you think were opening their phones in the middle of this mess to check the internet and to be somewhere quiet enough for them to hear the President asking them to stop?

The mob did all this because they were provoked by the guards and the police.

My last question to you all is this: if you don't think that they were provoked by the police and guards, what was their motive? What did they want the end result to be? Why didn't they follow through to achieve that end result once inside?

[BigPapaKain]

(01-14-2021, 04:12 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: The mob did all this because they were provoked by the guards and the police. 

My last question to you all is this: if you don't think that they were provoked by the police and guards, what was their motive?  What did they want the end result to be?  Why didn't they follow through to achieve that end result once inside?

Crazy how it's 'provoking' when the police use crowd dispersion tactics on these folks but 'giving them what they deserve' when them folks skin is a shade or two darker.

Their motive was what Trump said - overturn the election (which can't be done, but don't tell them that), take and/or kill VP Pence (they were literally chanting that, which is funny because he didn't provoked them) and any Democrat and Republican who has the audacity to uphold their oath to the Constitution (i.e: confirm Biden). They didn't follow through because they ****** around and found out when that woman got shot in the neck, and they're all cowards and scatter like cockroaches at the first sign of harm (as proven by them scattering like cockroaches when the guns and pepper spray came out).

[Mer]

(01-14-2021, 04:12 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: To all these, Trump called for a peaceful protest.

Police removed barrircade, so what's the natural reaction going to be?  To go further.  

If you'll look at the timeline of everything, you'll see that the police and guards at the Capitol start spraying the crowd with hoses when things didn't look like they were out of control, so you don't think that played a part in the crowd getting agitated?  

You want Trump to have called for peace?  How many of these protesters do you think were opening their phones in the middle of this mess to check the internet and to be somewhere quiet enough for them to hear the President asking them to stop?

The mob did all this because they were provoked by the guards and the police.

My last question to you all is this: if you don't think that they were provoked by the police and guards, what was their motive?  What did they want the end result to be?  Why didn't they follow through to achieve that end result once inside?

Unfortunately, BFritz, it's pointless to argue with the folks here. I was there at DC and saw it go down, but they only want to believe the fake narrative. Some even attacked me for saying that something big is about happen. To answer the question you posted in another thread, "Is this the end of America as we know it?" I sure hope it is. Because the America we live in now is not the America our forefathers envisioned, I nation founded on Biblical principles. Keep fighting the good fight BFritz and don't be discouraged by those that are confused and don't know what they support. 

[*Nately120*]

(01-14-2021, 04:40 PM)Mer Wrote: Unfortunately, BFritz, it's pointless to argue with the folks here. I was there at DC and saw it go down, but they only want to believe the fake narrative. Some even attacked me for saying that something big is about happen. To answer the question you posted in another thread, "Is this the end of America as we know it?" I sure hope it is. Because the America we live in now is not the America our forefathers envisioned, I nation founded on Biblical principles. Keep fighting the good fight BFritz and don't be discouraged by those that are confused and don't know what they support. 

Is there any evidence of your version of events?