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Issue 3 (For Ohio Residents)
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(11-04-2015, 01:29 PM)WhoDeyWho Wrote: I guess you have a right to feel that way.  Why you feel you should have a right to dictate what other adults choose to do to their bodies is where you lose me.  Drug abuse might be a "selfish" act, but how does making them a criminal for a victimless crime going to improve their situation?  How about getting them some help for their addiction.  And not everyone who uses drugs abuse them.



I watch football every Saturday and Sunday and beer commercials dominate the advertising.  How much of our society centers around drinking?  Ever been to a tailgate or a bar on the weekend?  Has alcohol "limited their life's potential".  I'd argue not graduating school has a bigger impact on "life potential".  Should we arrest people who don't take school seriously?  Of course not.  



This is dumb to me.  Say the government arbitrarily criminalized fast food and soda.  If you are still going to eat it, wouldn't you prefer it not be considered a crime for you to do so?

Are you really serious?

- I don't view drug use as a victimless crime. I think it dumbs down and demotivates society, making society as a whole a victim. To widely accept it would be to eventually spread that dumbing down to be acceptable as a norm. People say that smoking cigarettes is a victimless crime, too. Accept for when generations of tax payers have to pay health care costs for it. There are more layers to drug use harm than just some guy sitting around getting baked and playing video games.

The line of thinking of drug use being a victimless crime reminds me of the moon scene from Enter the Dragon. Forward to 1 min in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar_s18E5l0U

- I don't care what someone does to their body. However, people always gloss over societal effects of drug use because it's not PC to point them out. People can hang themselves in the privacy of their own homes for all I care. Frankly, I don't. But when it drains on society (and lack of sobriety does), then I have a problem with it. There are already plenty of ways to be amused or distracted. To add in a substance to ingest to do so, is not a good thing, IMO.

- Alcohol abuse has limited people's potential, yes. Absolutely. Knowing that... and then wanting to add in ANOTHER thing to do so is insane to me.

- You would be wrong to argue the point on college. I could point to all of the grads every year who do not put their degrees to use and are looking for, or are out of work. I would also point out that there are more millionaires without college degrees in this country than with them. Graduating college can increase chances of success depending on career choice, sure. But attending school is not a detriment to someone's success. Besides that fact, going to school or not does NOT effect someone's mental state in terms of impairing them.

- What's dumb is trying and win an argument with hypothetical situations. Your hypothetical (imaginary), made up situation with fast food is designed to prove a point that doesn't exist in the real world. Fantasy instead of facts won't work with me.  Tongue 

^ Besides, that, the government did not arbitrarily criminalize weed. It's a mood altering drug, therefore it is a controlled substance.
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RE: Issue 3 (For Ohio Residents) - bfine32 - 11-02-2015, 10:18 PM
RE: Issue 3 (For Ohio Residents) - Cure4CF - 11-02-2015, 11:16 PM
RE: Issue 3 (For Ohio Residents) - Cure4CF - 11-03-2015, 12:24 AM
RE: Issue 3 (For Ohio Residents) - treee - 11-03-2015, 04:36 PM
RE: Issue 3 (For Ohio Residents) - Cure4CF - 11-03-2015, 11:34 PM
RE: Issue 3 (For Ohio Residents) - treee - 11-03-2015, 01:12 PM
RE: Issue 3 (For Ohio Residents) - Cure4CF - 11-03-2015, 11:44 PM
RE: Issue 3 (For Ohio Residents) - magikod - 11-04-2015, 12:19 AM
RE: Issue 3 (For Ohio Residents) - Au165 - 11-04-2015, 11:52 AM
RE: Issue 3 (For Ohio Residents) - McC - 11-04-2015, 12:00 PM
RE: Issue 3 (For Ohio Residents) - Au165 - 11-04-2015, 12:03 PM
RE: Issue 3 (For Ohio Residents) - Au165 - 11-04-2015, 12:38 PM
RE: Issue 3 (For Ohio Residents) - PDub80 - 11-04-2015, 09:49 AM
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RE: Issue 3 (For Ohio Residents) - PDub80 - 11-04-2015, 11:09 AM
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RE: Issue 3 (For Ohio Residents) - Au165 - 11-04-2015, 12:54 PM
RE: Issue 3 (For Ohio Residents) - PDub80 - 11-04-2015, 01:07 PM
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