Issue 3 (For Ohio Residents)

[Benton]

(11-04-2015, 02:15 PM)PDub80 Wrote: 1 - Again with the addiction thing... People can become addicted to huffing spray paint form a bag. That doesn't mean that spray paint or bags should be illegal. Why do the weed backers always think it's about addiction?

2 I'm laughing my ass off at "People try caffeine". Ahahahahahaha! Do you live in Amish country?

3 Saying that the effects of ingesting a normal amount of caffeine in a soda or a cup of coffee (again, ANYTHING can be abused) and equating that to weed is absurd. It's a petty, weak argument that doesn't compare in the least. The effects of a normal amount of caffeine compared to weed once ingested is incomparable. To even begin to assert so shows how weak your stance is. That's what you have in your arsenal of relate-able norms in society? A Mountain Dew? A Venti Starbucks?

4 ^ Question? Are you knowingly saying that or is it just what stoners say to make themselves feel better about their drug use? I can see it now: Guy takes a long draw from a bong, "Man, this is no different than a latte at Starbucks. Only, it just relaxes me from my impossible day."  

5 It isn't socially acceptable and widely accepted as normal by most people's standard.

6 - You're pointing to medical conditions and medicine for it. Medicinal weed is a different subject than legalizing recreational marijuana.

1- You're losing me here. You're in favor of people having the ability to huff spray paint, but you're opposed to weed? I think it's probably just a miscommunication. As far as the addiction, that's typically the primary concern, people who can't stop. The guy who drinks a few too many and then drives or the person who takes more than the prescribed amount of pills.

2- There's an Amish community nearby, yes. Caffeine is a socially acceptable psychoactive stimulant. That's a drug. It's a very addictive one and has a variety of negative side effects. Just because you find it more acceptable than pot doesn't make it any less of a drug.

3- One is a drug that alters the mood, appetite, nervous system and effects areas of the brain. The other is a drug that alters the mood, appetite, nervous system and effects areas of the brain.They both effect people differently. I wasn't going to be derogatory, but since you're being aggressive with the "weak" argument label, the weakness of yours is that you fail to realize both drugs (THC and caffiene) effect people differently. Some people smoke pot and feel no effects (negative or positive) because of the way they're wired. Some people drink a caffeniated beverage and become very adversely effected.

You're applying a one-size fits all label to both drugs and that's silly.

4- As said, I don't smoke. And — again, since you're taking this down a confrontational road — to counter, I'd ask, do you look down from your caffeinated high horse and ridicule people have a different proclivity to a drug than you? That they prefr the altering effects of nicotine, THC or whatever to your caffeine?

5- I could have worded that better (sorry, only two cups of coffee this morning). I was referring to caffeine being a socially acceptable psychoactive drug. 

6- And? One is accepted an less regulated, others are less accepted and more regulated?

As a side note, I didn't finish it, but I originally started school to become a substance abuse counselor. One of the first things that surprised me was how much of an effect caffeine has on a person. I realize you do it so you think it's not much, but you should read up on it.