11-04-2015, 03:11 PM
(11-04-2015, 02:53 PM)WhoDeyWho Wrote: That seems to be your perspective: we shouldn't allow for legal use of pot because it makes some people losers.
My dad is a recovering alcoholic who use to get drunk and beat my mom and us. So obviously in some cases there are victims. Nonetheless alcohol is legal and I would prefer it stay that way. It is silly to say me getting high after a day at the office impacts you in any meaningful way. Just like it is silly to say that someone drinking a beer or getting hammered at a bar affects me if they called a cab to take them home.
What exactly are you making your judgments based on then? Other than your prejudice against people who choose to get high?
I was a bartender at Kilroy's Sports Bar in college and tended bar for about 10 years following as a part-time job. My anecdotal observations suggest the overwhelming majority of my customers used alcohol for the purposes of obtaining a buzz. Newsflash. Miller lite and Bud light doesn't taste all that good. And I can take a couple puffs of a vaporizer and be less intoxicated than drinking an IPA. Regardless it is irrelevant. As long as people aren't hurting someone else, why is it any of your business whether they choose to get intoxicated or not.
- I'm sorry about your dad. My dad was an alcoholic, too. He never was physical and he functioned incredibly well. Holding a great job and was a great dad. ZERO complaints from how he treated me. But he drank by himself or with his friends to great excesses. He would get in verbal, drunken arguments with my mother that were very mean. I was sad for my dad. He was uncomfortable and unhappy with himself because my grandfather was terribly hard on him... and the alcoholism was in his blood. It's in mine, too I am sure, which is why I have never had a drink. I would probably like it... too much. And I never wanted my children to see me the way I saw my dad when he was drunk. Nor did I want to be a hypocrite when I told them not to drink or use drugs.
- These aren't judgments, per se. More of a fundamental difference. I do not believe that ingesting something into the body for the (and this is key) purpose of changing your mood or feeling, other than medicine, is a good thing for society or people in general. I believe that it hinders.
A lot of my friends smoke. I do not view them, or any of you as losers. I have met and know of a lot of losers who do smoke, however, and their desire for weed has caused them to not function very well as an adult. I think that we, as a society, have lowered our standards on what is and what is not an acceptable way to carry ourselves and deal with our responsibilities or problems. don't feel that drugs to pass time or distract actually helps anyone. It merely distracts and delays.
- Yes, typically people go in bars to get drunk or get a buzz. I place a great deal of value on anecdotal real life experiences.
Which brings me to this: YOU might be able to handle drug use. But that does not mean that everyone in society can. Or that the majority can. Or that you being able to handle it is the best thing to be handling to begin with. But that is between you and you.
