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OL hits and sacks - Joe Goodberry
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(04-13-2021, 05:23 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: Yet in the very clip above... you can hear them call the play a "zone blitz" that results in only 4 rushing.

Once upon a time, blitzing meant sending more guys then blockers. I would say Pittsburgh is who really changed that under LeBeau with the Zone Blitzing stuff. You send 6 to the line and guys rush that you don't expect, but in the end, just like the video clip from Baltimore... 4 guys are all that comes. 

"A zone blitz is a defensive tactic that sends additional players to rush the opposing team's quarterback, whilst also unexpectedly redirecting a supposed pass rushing player into pass coverage instead."


Again.. watch the video... watch Pitt play us... You say WFT had 6 on the play Burrow got hurt... cool a team we play once every 3 years blitzed on one play.

Meanwhile.... Baltimore and Pitt who we play twice every single year routinely beat our OL with 4 guys... and sometimes... only 3. Again.. watch the video. 

They still score it as a blitz when the CB comes and the DE or DT drops into coverage. So you have to skip the numbers and actually watch the plays.

Come off the "Team Chase" stuff for a few seconds and actually look at how bad this team is on the line.

Read what you quoted again.  What does the word "additional" mean?  Would anybody like to read the first two paragraphs of the Wikipedia entry you took that from?

"In American football, a zone blitz is a defensive tactic that sends additional players to rush the opposing team's quarterback, whilst also unexpectedly redirecting a supposed pass rushing player into pass coverage instead.[1][2] This tactic also likely includes zone coverage (rather than man-to-man coverage).[3][4]

Like a conventional blitz, the zone blitz tactic assigns five or more players to rush the quarterback in a single down, rather than the usual four players. However, unlike a conventional blitz, the zone blitz uses players who are initially positioned to rush (for example, the defensive ends) to instead give pass coverage.[2] For example, a zone blitz may involve two linebackers adding to the rush of three defensive linemen, while a fourth lineman unexpectedly moves into pass coverage.[4]"

Hmmm...it says the zone blitz tactic sends 5 or more players to rush the QB, just like a conventional blitz.  So, if a conventional blitz is defined as 5+ rushers and a zone blitz is defined as 5+ rushers, it wouldn't really make sense to count plays where the defense only sends 4 as a blitz, would it?  

There's failings in the Baltimore clips at all levels.  On some plays, the OL gets fooled or beat.  On some plays, there's nobody open.  On some plays, Burrow has open guys and enough time to get the ball.out, but doesn't.  Honestly, what really stands out the most are the assignment errors.  It's not hard to see why Turner got fired.  

Nobody is going to argue that we don't need to improve the OL, but to try and sit there and argue that Burrow wasn't really one of the most blitzed QB's in the league is silly.  We gave up 48 sacks last year.  23 of those were credited to the OL.  25 are split up between the QB, RB's and TE's, and coverage sacks.  We need to get better in all areas.  Come off of TeamSewell for a minute and look at the bigger picture.
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