Joey B talks to Collinsworth

[Shake n Blake]

(04-22-2021, 12:27 PM)PDub80 Wrote: Marvin was handed a roster coming into it's prime. The offense could score points (look at the box scores after the bye week in 2002. The defense stunk. Marvin had 1 major thing to come in and fix... and a #1 stud QB to do it with. Marvin's problem wasn't talent. It was procedural and organizational. he did a great job turning those things around.

Marvin went 8-8 with Jon Kitna.
Zac went 2-7-1 with Joe Burrow.

Marvin had to reshape how the organization functioned.
Zac benefitted from that.

Yes we had some good young offensive talent when Marvin took over, but Marvin completely reshaped that defense (and greatly improved the offense) in 1 year.

Meanwhile Zac has shown zero improvement over 2 years.

I mean, there really is no debate here. Even if I concede that Merv walked into a better situation (which is somewhat debatable), he still took over a bad team/franchise and led them to a 16-16 record in his first 2 years. Zac is 5-26-1.