Joey B talks to Collinsworth

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(04-22-2021, 01:00 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Marvin went 8-8 with Jon Kitna.
Zac went 2-7-1 with Joe Burrow.

Marvin had to reshape how the organization functioned.
Zac benefitted from that.

Yes we had some good young offensive talent when Marvin took over, but Marvin completely reshaped that defense (and greatly improved the offense) in 1 year.

Meanwhile Zac has shown zero improvement over 2 years.

I mean, there really is no debate here. Even if I concede that Merv walked into a better situation (which is somewhat debatable), he still took over a bad team/franchise and led them to a 16-16 record in his first 2 years. Zac is 5-26-1.

Shake, this is exactly what I wanted to say.  

Marvin taught this organization how to operate in the 21st century.  

How to draft, how to use the cap.  If this team hadnt hired ML when they did I don't know where they'd be today. 

As much as people on here like to shit on Marvin, and I'm a critic of his as well, he brought more positives to this organization than he had negatives.