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(08-17-2021, 02:28 PM)Sled21 Wrote: It really irks me when I hear people say this. You absolutely CAN defeat an ideology like this, you just have to be willing to do it and not ***** foot around fighting a clean war. Pre war Japan was about as fanatical an ideology as they came, believing their emperor was a living God. They were all about fighting to the death and surrender was shameful, until we lowered the hammer on them. Their "ideology" came around very quickly. Now they're normal people. Of course, to do this you have to fight a war and not have battlefields run by lawyers in DC. There's a reason we haven't won a war since WWII, and we will probably lose to China in the near future. 

Thanks for the tidbit above your post in reply to mine, but...

… you really don't know much about Japan's history.

The INCREDIBLY-short of it, is that the emperor, "title," was largely a figurehead position for a good 300-500 years in Japan, around the time of the Sengoku period, until the Meiji Restoration, in the 1800s.

Meiji then did the whole, "empire of Japan," crap, which Hirohito took to fanatical lengths, around WWII and we all know how that went down.

So yes, the, "American," history of Japan, may state that Japan was indoctrinated and, "needed to be snapped out of it," but the reality is that the country was only in that state for decades and that emperor was powerless for centuries beforehand.

The winners really do write history...

EDIT* Wanted to ask, actually: have you ever been to Japan? 'cause even though they love everything about the West and foreign culture, they are NOT, "normal," people lol and they are still VERY rooted in their Japanese ideologies, history and just everyday life; they haven't changed in centuries, but they are still wonderfully-nice, down to Earth and above all, classy and friendly people. The rest of the world (especially the US) can learn a lot in terms of manners and respect, from the Japanese.