08-18-2021, 03:16 PM
(08-18-2021, 02:00 PM)michaelsean Wrote: I think the consequences from the withdrawal are shocking some people.
And as mentioned before, it seems they don’t want to fight for their own country. Our soldiers did all that was asked of them in trying to help. Including dying.
I feel really bad for the younger ones who grew up in a much more secular world, and are now going to be stripped of all that. Especially the girls and young women. They will literally kill you for not dressing correctly.
That's unfair. 73k of the 81k forces killed in Afghanistan and Pakistan were nationals, not US or allied personnel. Tens of thousands died for their country. Tens of thousands of civilians died too.
This is a good break down of the inevitable collapse:
https://www.cfr.org/in-brief/how-afghan-army-collapsed-under-talibans-pressure
tl;dr:
-Doha and the speedy exit demoralized them, leading them to believe the country was being handed to the Taliban
-The lost of contractors meant a lost of logistical support
-Lost of those supports led to failures to properly supply the army, especially in remote locations
-Cultural/language barriers in the US military when training
-US mostly trained in infantry tactics, not local security
-Failure to train the skills needed to run their military
-Poor education in Afghanistan
-Massive corruption in Afghanistan
-Officers inflated the size of their forces for more money/supplied and then underpaid the men serving under them and rerouted supplies for profit.