08-19-2021, 08:23 AM
Too many good (and bad posts) to respond to.
I think the majority of us here know that this isn't just a Democrat or Republican thing. That Bush bear much of the weight and the rest were enablers. That said if Biden wants to take the heat for the "failure" then so be it. That might give him thismuch more credit than the rest.
We have had incompetent leadership in the country for a long time. We still have it but now the cult of personality has overtaken what was left of logical thinking by voters and many elected officials.
And I'm not surprised that a bunch of armchair Monday morning qbs on a message board think THEY know how it should have been handled...or that there are arguments about Islam vs Christianity and militias vs the Taliban. In the current world (and this board) you pick a side, defend it by calling the other side dumb (uninformed/biased) and then claim you aren't taking a political side. There's a disingenuity about it but that's not going to change and most on here are guilty of it, including me at times.
I'll add that it is not at all surprising to me to see people suddenly find out that war is bad for the people in the country where the war was. Bad when it is happening and bad when there is no strategy for being there or how to leave.
I think the majority of us here know that this isn't just a Democrat or Republican thing. That Bush bear much of the weight and the rest were enablers. That said if Biden wants to take the heat for the "failure" then so be it. That might give him thismuch more credit than the rest.
We have had incompetent leadership in the country for a long time. We still have it but now the cult of personality has overtaken what was left of logical thinking by voters and many elected officials.
And I'm not surprised that a bunch of armchair Monday morning qbs on a message board think THEY know how it should have been handled...or that there are arguments about Islam vs Christianity and militias vs the Taliban. In the current world (and this board) you pick a side, defend it by calling the other side dumb (uninformed/biased) and then claim you aren't taking a political side. There's a disingenuity about it but that's not going to change and most on here are guilty of it, including me at times.
I'll add that it is not at all surprising to me to see people suddenly find out that war is bad for the people in the country where the war was. Bad when it is happening and bad when there is no strategy for being there or how to leave.
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