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(01-08-2022, 03:06 PM)Bengalfan4life27c Wrote:  But Marvin never played to win it was always not to  lose 

The difference between "playing not to lose" and "playing to win" is just silly semantics.  Many times the coaches "playing to win" actually lose while the coaches "playing not to lose" win.

Marvin never lost a single game by being too conservative with a lead.  But he did lose a game by "playing to win" and throwing the ball around with a big lead late against Tampa Bay in '10.