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Asking for it
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(11-26-2015, 12:43 AM)Beaker Wrote: You hear of rape trials where the defense suggests that the way the victim was dressed implied she was "asking for it'. That logic has largely been ridiculed and dismissed. But my wife recently left her purse on the front seat of her car. The passenger window was smashed and $40 that was sitting basically exposed in her open purse was taken. Thankfully, everything else was left. The cop told her she was asking for it by leaving her purse where it could be seen.....that it was tempting to a criminal. That got me to thinking....if you leave something out that would be considered tempting to take, are you not asking for it? My wife left money where it could be seen, she was asking for it. If you leave a nice bike out on your lawn overnight and someone takes it, were you not asking for it? So if a woman dresses in an overly sexy outfit....one that partially exposes things that every guy wants....is she not asking for it?









PS. I don't think she is obviously, but exploring why the logic works for other things is interesting.

I agree with those who have said those allegedly "asking for it" are not, but I also agree the logic is interesting and yes the cops (and others) make such allegations all the time as: if you leave property in plain view in your car you are asking for it to be taken, if you leave your bike unlocked you are asking for it to be taken, etc. This thread reminded me of a guy I knew once who was by all accounts a great guy - volunteered at his church and at a homeless shelter on a regular basis, but if he drove down the street and saw a bike unattended he would pick it up and toss it in his truck and drop it off for one of his grandkids. His logic was the kid who left it unattended "didn't value it/ didn't want it/ didn't care about it." It is kind of interesting how often this "logic" as the OP called it is the prevailing "logic" in our culture. No one here seems to defend it, but it is pervasive.
JOHN ROBERTS: From time to time in the years to come, I hope you will be treated unfairly so that you will come to know the value of justice... I wish you bad luck, again, from time to time so that you will be conscious of the role of chance in life and understand that your success is not completely deserved and that the failure of others is not completely deserved either.





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Asking for it - Beaker - 11-26-2015, 12:43 AM
RE: Asking for it - GMDino - 11-26-2015, 12:55 AM
RE: Asking for it - Benton - 11-26-2015, 01:15 AM
RE: Asking for it - Beaker - 11-26-2015, 12:51 PM
RE: Asking for it - Rotobeast - 11-26-2015, 03:41 PM
RE: Asking for it - fredtoast - 11-27-2015, 06:21 PM
RE: Asking for it - Beaker - 11-28-2015, 12:55 PM
RE: Asking for it - GMDino - 11-27-2015, 08:54 PM
RE: Asking for it - Nately120 - 11-26-2015, 01:16 AM
RE: Asking for it - StLucieBengal - 11-26-2015, 02:05 AM
RE: Asking for it - Nately120 - 11-26-2015, 01:34 PM
RE: Asking for it - xxlt - 11-26-2015, 11:48 PM
RE: Asking for it - Nately120 - 11-27-2015, 03:13 AM
RE: Asking for it - StLucieBengal - 11-27-2015, 03:39 AM
RE: Asking for it - Mike M (the other one) - 11-27-2015, 06:36 AM
RE: Asking for it - Bengalzona - 11-28-2015, 02:15 PM
RE: Asking for it - Beaker - 11-28-2015, 09:54 PM

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