03-08-2022, 11:27 PM
(03-08-2022, 08:19 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: I want some of what you're smoking.https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cincinnati.com/amp/8722843002
This article explains why I would be confident in Morgan's starting ability. His blocking ability alone would fill a key role in this offense.
Of Course Morgan isn't going to outshine Boyd but that doesn't mean he can't help fill his role.
Obviously it would take a committee to replace production that Boyd would give you.
A early draft pick ,Taylor, and Mike Thomas on top of Morgan could do the job.
(03-08-2022, 08:50 PM)leonardfan40 Wrote: Several reasons:We have 35 Million in cap it's not a ton of Cap space. Cutting Wayne's, Perine, Wilson, Hopkins, and trading Boyd would give around 70 Million in cap space.
-Boyd is a great player and on a very reasonable contract. We are not in cap trouble so why weaken a strength? We can improve our weaknesses without hurting our team in other areas this offseason which is a rare opportunity for playoff teams. If we need to make tough decisions like that do it next year. We can take another swing at it this year with virtually the same team that made the SB last year PLUS a much better o line. Why not do that? No need to let Boyd (or Bates for that matter) go this offseason.
-We run lots of 3 WR sets and need the guys to be able to produce when called upon.
-We were lucky with injuries last year, we will likely lose one of our top 3 WR’s to injury at some point and we can’t afford to have just Tee or just Chase and then all of the scrubs we have on the roster as the remaining starters. We have 3 good WR’s and then NOTHING afterwards. Go watch the 2nd browns game and you’ll see just how pathetic our backup WR’s are. Believe we had 3 consecutive drops at one point in that game.
As for the Browns game there is a lot of different variables that went on that make it hard to judge players. One Burrow wasn't playing and Two neither Chase or Higgins played that much.
A better example would be when Higgins missed two games earlier in the season and the offense didn't really miss a beat.
(03-08-2022, 08:56 PM)pulses Wrote: What Morgan did in college has nothing to do with any of this. If he was as good or even close to Boyd he would have been playing LONG AGO. I have no problem trading Boyd and even mentioned a few times to trade him to NE for Shaq Mason. With that being said if we got a 3rd for him I would take it and draft his replacement this year if we could not trade him for OL. But to think Morgan is even close to Boyd or a capable starter you're def smoking something.Why does what Morgan did in college not matter? That's how we literally judge players before they get into the NFL.
Secondly the dude has proven to be one of the best Gunners in the NFL and the Bengals coaching staff has called him one of the best blocking WRs in the game. He's earned an opportunity for playing time
Is he a 1000 yard WR like Boyd? I don't think so but Could he be an elite Blocker(which is very important to this offense) and get between 400 and 500 yards. Yeah I think that's plausible.
(03-08-2022, 09:08 PM)Hammerstripes Wrote: Every time I see a trade Boyd thread I just roll. IF the coaches thought that Morgan could replace him, they would be giving him reps.1 Morgan is getting reps(see article above) . He was the lead blocker on Mixons first TD in the regular season game against the Raiders for example.
Morgan is not even in the same universe as Boyd. Boyd is a big reason why this offense works so well. You don't trade a guy like that when your Super Bowl window is open.
Is Boyd still a big player in this offense? He averaged 28 yards a game(4th on team) in the playoffs and was a distant third in receiving yards during the regular season. Yeah Boyd is a good player but his importance to this offense is less significant than it once was.
Also a good starting RG + top 100 draft pick or Boyd?
(03-08-2022, 09:39 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: The Bengals play 3 WR sets something like 77% of the time. If Boyd plays 74% of offensive snaps is he “just” a third WR? For comparison, Reader played 53% of defensive snaps and Hendrickson play 64%.
Tag and trade Bates and the Bengals save $12M.
In 2021, a top 5 S started at $14M average per year. Top 5 C $10.5M. Top 5 LG $10.8M. Top 5 RG $9M. Top 5 RT $17M.
If it is me and I can get an equivalent quality player at a position of need for less that allows me to apply the savings elsewhere.
In other words, sign a Top 5 RG for less than a Top 5 S and draft a new S for less. Use the savings elsewhere or at least roll it over.
Comparing Wr Snaps to Defensive lineman snaps isn't really fair. Defensive line is a lot more physical position and takes a bigger toll on the body then a WR.
