Why Not?

[casear2727]

(03-10-2022, 11:14 AM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: You say that as if you think I give a shit.

I'm going to summarize the differences between this debate.

I have shown you this offense uses 3 WR sets (11 personnel) more than any other team in the NFL over the past three seasons. The team which uses 11 personnel the 2nd most is the Rams.  Which is where Zac's offense come from. It's a 3 WR base offense. Boyd was targeted more than any other WR3 in the NFL last season.  He was targeted the 3rd most on the team.  Not 4th. WR3 was targeted more than TE1 or RB1.  WR3 was targeted more than the entire TE group combined. WR3 was targeted more than RB1 and RB2 combined.  RB1, RB2, and RB3 combined were only targeted 2 more times than WR3. WR3 played more snaps than WR2, TE1, and RB1. WR3 had more receptions and yards than TE1 or RB1. WR3 had same amount of TDs as TE1 and more rec TDs than RB1. WR3 catch percentage was greater than WR1 or WR2. WR3 had less drops than WR1, WR2, TE1, and RB1. Improving the offensive line is not going to make the WR3 less important in a 3 WR base offense.  Especially when the offense uses WR3 more than any other team the past 3 seasons.

When you analyze the numbers the painfully obvious conclusion is claiming Boyd is a non-priority 4th option is completely subjective, unsupported by data, and not grounded in reality. Which is a kind way of explaining it is complete and utter bullshit.

While you have offered Bates is not elite.  Bates will be overpaid. Bates is important to this defense because of poor CB play. When I suggested ways to increase cap space to sign a top tier CB your retort was you didn't see JC Jackson walking in the Bengals door only to inexplicably start a thread about how the Bengals can sign JC Jackson.  You haven't offered a single opinion supported by anything.  If you claim Bates is important to this defense because of poor CBs then prove it.  Instead of telling me about your feelings. I'm not going to believe 1+1=3 unless you prove it. Thus far you have failed miserably.

Because you dont understand context.

With our roster WR3 is not as crucial as FS - doesnt matter who the players are - but you cant comprehend this.

The offense uses WR3 now because we have no oline to block for wide out pass patterns - a better oline provides increased rushing and deeper routes with the WR3 being a check down instead of this dink and dunk and occasional go route offense we have been forced into. But you cant grasp this for some reason.

Bates pay has nothing to do with this argument - there is no replacement for Bates right now. WR3 is the easiest position in football to fill other than maybe RB.  It is a million times easier to fill than FS and a million times less important.  FS is the very last line of defense it has more responsibility to prevent points than WR3 does in scoring points.  I do prefer great CBs over FS but we are not in that position currently.

I do not believe the Bengals will sign JC for the reasons mentioned, I simply provided the way that they could do it with their free cash, but again you are limited mentally so I understand this is yet another point that you have tremendous difficulty in comprehending.


But as I said previously, neither player is going anywhere so this hypothetical isnt worth arguing about. It is good to know what a moron you are for future purposes. At least know that I did not simply accept the warnings from others that you arent very bright and difficult, I let you prove it yourself.