Roe vs Wade vs SCOTUS legitimacy

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(05-12-2022, 07:12 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: I literally watched Manchin's interview after posting that, good on you for spotting it as well.  It really shoots holes in the Dem claim to want to codify Roe.  As you say, they chose to play politics with this issue instead of trying to get Roe codified.  Warren was disingenuous in the extreme afterwards, claiming that the minority was blocking the majority and that means the filibuster has to go.  Whatever you think of the filibuster, last I looked 51 was a bigger number than 49.  I honestly think this was a deliberate fail on their part to try and make this a mid-term issue.

Yeah, no matter how to turn it in the end this explanation makes the most sense. For sure, it would have changed nothing either way, so I might even get over dirty tricks. Don't hate the player, hate the game and all that, maybe politicians have to be that way. What I'd consider way more frustrating is how this to me has no apparent strategic value and seems to be a dirty trick for nothing. What is the goal of making it 49-51 really, chase Manchin out of the party or what. It doesn't make for a good filibuster talking point, that's indeed for sure.

(05-12-2022, 07:12 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote:   It will be regardless, but not nearly the one they're hoping for.  Inflation is rampant, gas prices are at record levels, as noted in another thread people can't even feed their babies.  Whether it's fair to blame the Dems for this or not, they're in charge (as Biden said) and they're going to get the blame regardless.

Well there is the fact that many of the republican opponents are insurrection-denying, Trump-admiring sycophants that tend to say some pretty weird stuff about election fraud and then some. Employment numbers are still good too. Inflation could easily, and correctly, be painted as a largely global phenomena (not that anyone would try to make such a point). But I get it's a pendulum and the midterm smackdown just probably is a given.

I hope the Hunter Biden committees will at least be fun.