06-27-2022, 01:48 PM
(06-27-2022, 11:59 AM)Nately120 Wrote: I hear ya, it's just hard to have much confidence in the strength of any positions now. A president with 3 million fewer votes than his opponent won and appointed 3 SC justices who were instrumental in doing something that has an amount of bipartisan disdain rarely seen in this climate.
I'd put on my tinfoil hat and wonder why overturning something both sides have anything close to agreement upon was so damn important. Add in that the Trump justices were blatantly lying about their intentions to do so and, well...hard not to assume we are sliding down a slope.
Plus people can be pissed about this, but the GOP can still clean house in the midterms and further show that unlike Dee Snyder, we are gonna take it.
EDIT: 100% not banging on you with the below. I super respect people's political ideas. I think they are interesting, but don't necessarily define them... unless they are a lawmaker. In which case, then... yeah... that's fair. I tend to vote Republican, but a lot of the center leaning democrat initiatives are important to me. They make sense to fix.... same with the GOP.
Look, clearly you aren't a fan of the GOP, which is fine... I get that... but that saltiness isn't going to further this discussion. The rules of an election are what they are. If the majority ruled.... well, let's be honest, the majority are stupid.... which is part of why the electoral college exists. It isn't a perfect system of government, I agree... But, at this point, anyone bitching about the Trump administration's results - not the man himself, but the results - while living with the results of the current one doesn't make sense to me. These political parties aren't sports teams where people should hold any kind of long term allegiance to them. They are human beings with real power over others. They either do well as a group, or they do not.
Not all Dem ideas are bad, not all GOP ideas are good... and certainly we can all agree that NONE OF THEM execute these ideas very well with any sort of consistency.
Hell, the KKK was entirely made up of Sothern Democrats during it's biggest time of influence and now the Democratic party is "for minorities". Which is another fascinating debate TO CIRCLE BACK TO ABORTION: More black babies were aborted in the city of New York in 2019 than were born - this statistic is perpetual, BTW. That happens in almost every year. Interesting way to, uh, help the black community..... by helping stall their population growth. In fact, NATION WIDE, since Roe v Wade was passed more than 40% of abortions are performed on black women, even though they are less than 15% of the population. < Wall Street Journal statistics, BTW. I didn't pull those from thin air.
My point is that not all Republicans are against abortion. Not all Democrats are for it. It is a matter of law based on 100s of years of laws. It is a silly way to continue to operate, IMO. Each of these issues are major enough to be based on what makes sense in 2022.. not 1787.
