06-27-2022, 02:08 PM
(06-27-2022, 11:18 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: And here I was being nice and civil to you since your return. But you just couldn't help yourself and had white knight a dude who got caught up in his own wording and refused to own it. I explained his statement numerous times, and all I got was "nuh uh" in response. Odd that you would defend that. On second thought, no it isn't.
In an effort to illuminate why I came to my conclusion about you, let's revisit the origin of our exchange.
BFritz21 stated the following in post #78:
(06-25-2022, 02:50 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: "All men and women are CREATED EQUAL."
Men and women are CREATED when the sperm fertilizes the egg and the rest are just stages of development.
My response in post #80 attempted to show that his categorization of men and women was mistaken by using the word "people" to describe those who could and couldn't become pregnant, even emphasizing the word with italic.
I then offered reasons as to why those two groups of people are not equal in terms of reproductive burden / ramifications and to demonstrate the obvious difference.
(06-25-2022, 03:31 PM)Lucidus Wrote: There are people who possess the biological means of becoming pregnant and people who do not.
These two groups are not "equal" in terms of the impact of this recent decision by the Court.
One isn't required to undergo physical, hormonal and emotional changes to bring forth life.
One isn't required to endure pain, severe discomfort or various medical issues to bring forth life.
One isn't required to potentially be forced against their will and autonomy to bring forth life.
In your first response - post #85 and again in post #91 as shown - you went directly to an accusation of transphobia after looking at those examples, which seemed extremely disingenuous given what I had stated in the first 2 lines. It's as if you ignored that part because your assertion and following arguments would not have made sense had the full context been considered.
(06-25-2022, 04:47 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Excuse me, transphobe. Men can absolutely have to deal with everything you just mentioned. You should apologize for your bigoted statement immediately.
(06-25-2022, 06:06 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: You're not going to apologize for your transphobia, are you?
Later in post #117, you falsely asserted that my position was "in relation to men vs. women" which it clearly wasn't. In an attempt to rehabilitate your argument, you once again referenced to my original post, but this time omitted the first 2 lines, and instead focused only on the last 3 lines while re-stating your claim of transphobia.
(06-26-2022, 02:39 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: I have a hard time understanding how you could be confused. I've been told, numerous times, that men can get pregnant, have periods, etc.
You stated, in relation to men vs. women that;
One isn't required to undergo physical, hormonal and emotional changes to bring forth life.
One isn't required to endure pain, severe discomfort or various medical issues to bring forth life.
One isn't required to potentially be forced against their will and autonomy to bring forth life.
This is denying that there are, indeed, men who have to go through all of that. If you have an issue with my response to your transphobia then kindly take it up with the transgendered community, I am merely echoing their statements on this subject. Maybe you're not the ally you thought you were?
Perhaps revisiting the exchange will enlighten you as to why I came to my conclusion about your approach.
