Roe Vs Wade Overturned

[BoomerFan]

(06-27-2022, 10:10 AM)pally Wrote: what other rights do the unborn possess?  If the mother miscarried there would not even be a death certificate because under most state laws a miscarried pregnancy isn't a person.  You can't take out life insurance on a fetus.  You can't collect child support on a fetus.  A person who kills a fetus while committing a crime will only be charged with its death after viability.  I can't get a deduction on my taxes because of a pregnancy.  Justice Alito said if a right isn't spelled out in the constitution it isn't a right.  Preborn personhood isn't in the constitution nor is it considered a historic norm.  

So tell me, what rights does this unborn have?

I really don't want to be taking up the cause of the conservatives, a cause which I generally do not believe in. There are some pretty obvious answers here though. There were already legal constraints on third trimester abortions of course, but that is neither here nor there. Laws or practices that recognize or codify rights do not impact whether a right exists. There has always been a right to freedom, whether it was legally protected or not. Slavery was always wrong. It did not become wrong the day it was outlawed. Natural rights are things we try to protect with laws, with varying success, but some are perhaps missed altogether. And the boundaries of those rights can be debatable. 

There probably is another issue here as well. Part of the conservative mindset (I think) is trying to create a social mores where certain actions are not acceptable in society. This is in pursuit of having people generally act in non-monstrous ways. I could find agreement with that when we are talking about third trimester abortions when they aren't in cases with mitigating circumstances (such as rape). I hope you agree. And no it is not lost on me that conservatives have a lot of terrible views that make any pursuit of the sanctity of life by them hypocritical.