07-09-2022, 08:39 PM
(07-07-2022, 11:17 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Ok, so this goes back to our perceptions of how the midterms will go. I mean, I never underestimate the stupidity of voters (myself included), but if most people didn't want Roe v Wade overturned and it was overturned by a conservative SC wouldn't the idea that democrats can "get it back" whether right or not indicate that democrats might get more votes in 2022?
Or you may be right and people may say they don't approve of republicans overturning 50 years of Roe v Wade, but Joe Biden sucks and he's going to be president for another 2 whopping years so let's vote republican.
Also, you keep talking about women and this when both men and women disapprove of this move.
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2022/07/06/majority-of-public-disapproves-of-supreme-courts-decision-to-overturn-roe-v-wade/
This is post-overturning and it was 62% of women and 52% of men disapprove of the decision to end the federal right to an abortion.
The presidency and the power of the office may not mean much in the grand scheme of things, but it really does in this instance. This is all about the court and who's in office when someone on it decides to call it a career or dies. If a majority of Americans, male or female want federal protection for the right to an abortion, then it stands to reason that they need to keep a Democrat in office in order to very gradually move the court back in the direction of being pro-choice.
It took the right 50 years to ram this through, so you need to play the long game if you want it back. The court isn't supposed to be a partisan entity, but it clearly is at this point. The main purpose of election a president IMO is ensuring that you get the justices you want on the court, or at the very least prevent ones you don't from getting appointed.
Another aside, the presidency is basically the only office that the right can't gerrymander into more or less impossible districts for the left. Dems will get the most bang for their buck by winning POTUS, even if the right manages to rule in favor of laughably partisan gerrymandering with their activist court in the next few months.
Majorities like the alleged one in this country that favors the federal right to an abortion are suppressed by both gerrymandering and the electoral college. I'm not anti-electoral college, but strongly oppose the cowardly gerrymandering process. The right has done a brilliant job at obtaining power as a popular minority in terms of sheer national numbers. Should NY and Cali dictate what Arkansas and Mississippi can or can't do by law? I'd say no. However, I don't think numbers are meaningless in terms of population. If the dems had a clue when it came to gaining real power, they'd be a lot less worried about optics and a lot more adept at using power when they have it. Fortunately for the right, they left are abject failures at welding power, and no majority in the world will make them better at it.
