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(07-22-2022, 05:42 PM)Lucidus Wrote: I agree with most of your thoughts on Trump supporters and / or the far Right, as I think they are polluting America -- and other places in turn -- with of type of ignorance and rejection of that which is factual is extremely dangerous and worrisome. I'm not suggesting we shouldn't try to talk with them, reason with them, etc; but it's becoming more and more difficult when we don't share a common reality. 

I would offer the same criticism towards many of the religious ilk as well. Your views are rather interesting in respects to the Bible. You assert that one is not supposed to take things literally. Of course, it is that case that parts of the Bible are meant to be purely allegorical, but It's also the case that other parts are meant to be taken very literally. Are the detailed instructions on how to own other human beings allegorical? Of course not. The Bible contains both allegorical and literal; both descriptive and prescriptive. The larger and more problematic issue is that one can derive evil intentions and immoral actions just as easily as they can good and moral teachings, because both exist.

Absolutely correct on your part.

However, a modicum of common sense and modern morality must be used when reading it; we know that keeping slaves is morally, socially and just outright wrong, so that would be eschewed. Like Morpheus says to Neo about the Oracle in the first film, "don't think about it in terms of right and wrong. She is a guide, Neo..." which then leads to the Oracle telling him in Reloaded, "... I expect what I've always expected you to do; make up your own damn mind, believe me or not."

Everyone's relationship with God is personal and reading scripture is meant to be done contextually, taking from it lessons and morals that you are to use to live the best life you possibly can... or you don't. It isn't black and white: NOTHING in the world is black and white and we all need to sift through all the shit, to find what is valuable, good and just. By mixing church and state, the, "personal," part of religion is being eschewed and to keep everyone in line and indoctrinated, you need something, "bUlLeTpRoOf," that can unite everyone and cause them all to fall in line... and what's the common thing? The Bible. So how do you keep people indoctrinated? Use something meant to be a guide and to be taken contextually, as fact and to be taken literally and if you don't, "you don't belong," as you, "aren't following law."

Anyways, I'm rambling a bit. I will say one thing though, there is no, "detailed guide," on how to keep slaves: there are little bits of info from Proverbs on how you should treat those who serve you, but I wouldn't say that there are, "detailed instructions."

That's a bit hyperbolic.