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Trump, lets move on
(07-21-2022, 10:56 AM)Stewy Wrote: Because:

Until there is clearly someone else, there's Trump, past, present and future.

However, Trumps base is eroding.  Reading between the line, it is clear that the leaders of the Repub's don't want him and want him to go away.  A large number of Non-elected conservative leaders have gotten together and have written an open letter calling the election legitimate, asking the entire party and party leaders to move on.  His endorsement is not an automatic win any more, and a a matter of fact really doesn't appear to be swaying primary's, but certainly will cause voters to switch parties and vote in Democrats, because people fear and are tired of Trump's lies and those who spread them.

The way things are looking to me, especially recently, is that Pence is going to be the one to step up and steer the repub's from Trump.  Desantis is too Trump like for me.

You're dead on.  I think the grown ups in the GOP want him gone so badly that it hurts.  They're looking at a sitting duck dem president, a stacked high court, and a layup midterm election.  Trump is just about the only thing that can screw them out of gaining an extremely formidable advantage.  

His endorsement has always been unreliable to lower ticket candidates, sometimes even detrimental in non-deep-red states.  His campaigning is often half-hearted (see Matt Bevin) and uninspiring.  He only cares about campaigning for one person, and that's Donald Trump.  Long term interest in the fate of the GOP is questionable when compared to his own ego.  He's also shown a propensity to thrown even his most loyal supporters under the bus when it suits his narrative.

Trump was cocaine for the GOP.  He was a fun and fast paced ride and when things were peaking he was very productive for them.  I think the party leaders like McConnell have ridden that horse as far as it can go and they know it.  It's time to take him out behind the barn and put his political career out of it's misery.
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Trump, lets move on - bengalfan74 - 07-21-2022, 09:28 AM
RE: Trump, lets move on - Nately120 - 07-21-2022, 09:44 AM
RE: Trump, lets move on - bengalfan74 - 07-21-2022, 10:27 AM
RE: Trump, lets move on - Nately120 - 07-21-2022, 10:37 AM
RE: Trump, lets move on - hollodero - 07-21-2022, 09:47 AM
RE: Trump, lets move on - GMDino - 07-21-2022, 09:50 AM
RE: Trump, lets move on - bengalfan74 - 07-21-2022, 10:53 AM
RE: Trump, lets move on - Stewy - 07-21-2022, 11:06 AM
RE: Trump, lets move on - bengalfan74 - 07-21-2022, 11:12 AM
RE: Trump, lets move on - Stewy - 07-21-2022, 11:24 AM
RE: Trump, lets move on - Leon - 07-21-2022, 01:34 PM
RE: Trump, lets move on - Stewy - 07-21-2022, 07:24 PM
RE: Trump, lets move on - Nately120 - 07-21-2022, 11:25 AM
RE: Trump, lets move on - Nately120 - 07-21-2022, 09:55 AM
RE: Trump, lets move on - BigPapaKain - 07-21-2022, 09:57 AM
RE: Trump, lets move on - Nately120 - 07-21-2022, 10:00 AM
RE: Trump, lets move on - BigPapaKain - 07-21-2022, 10:34 AM
RE: Trump, lets move on - bengalfan74 - 07-21-2022, 10:47 AM
RE: Trump, lets move on - pally - 07-21-2022, 10:19 AM
RE: Trump, lets move on - hollodero - 07-21-2022, 10:31 AM
RE: Trump, lets move on - HarleyDog - 07-21-2022, 01:02 PM
RE: Trump, lets move on - hollodero - 07-21-2022, 01:40 PM
RE: Trump, lets move on - bengalfan74 - 07-21-2022, 01:51 PM
RE: Trump, lets move on - bengalfan74 - 07-21-2022, 10:44 AM
RE: Trump, lets move on - Nately120 - 07-21-2022, 10:55 AM
RE: Trump, lets move on - Stewy - 07-21-2022, 10:58 AM
RE: Trump, lets move on - bengalfan74 - 07-21-2022, 11:04 AM
RE: Trump, lets move on - bengalfan74 - 07-21-2022, 11:02 AM
RE: Trump, lets move on - Stewy - 07-21-2022, 10:56 AM
RE: Trump, lets move on - Nately120 - 07-21-2022, 11:00 AM
RE: Trump, lets move on - Stewy - 07-21-2022, 11:15 AM
RE: Trump, lets move on - pally - 07-21-2022, 12:20 PM
RE: Trump, lets move on - Nately120 - 07-21-2022, 12:34 PM
RE: Trump, lets move on - bengalfan74 - 07-21-2022, 12:44 PM
RE: Trump, lets move on - Stewy - 07-21-2022, 07:29 PM
RE: Trump, lets move on - Leon - 07-21-2022, 07:36 PM
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RE: Trump, lets move on - bengalfan74 - 07-21-2022, 01:44 PM
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RE: Trump, lets move on - bengalfan74 - 07-21-2022, 01:56 PM
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