Your Gun Control Laws

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(12-09-2015, 04:14 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Agreed. I compared it to sex ed, but my wife mad ea more apt comparison to driver's ed. There would be a classroom portion that would be talking about general firearm safety and whatnot, but if you had any desire to purchase, own, carry, a firearm there would be a require practical portion. A "behind the sights" if you will. This way it does not require anyone that may be against firearms to actually have to handle one and separating out those two things provides an avenue for those that may not have had instruction to take it in a separate place from the school.

Pretty much my thoughts. As I've said on here before, I had an Ag class where we did skeet shooting. I already had gun safety lessons at home, but it was still a good lesson. If nothing else, if reinforced what my dad taught me.

(12-09-2015, 04:24 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Maybe I've lived a sheltered life, but I never saw guns as relevant to daily life as driving a car and/or understanding sex (as much as I wish sex itself were part of my daily life).  If I had a class on guns in school I wager I still wouldn't have touched a gun since.  Maybe everyone else is around guns a lot more than me and the people I know, but guns just don't seem "daily life" enough to me to warrant nation-wide coverage in the classroom.

Also, would it be a national thing?  Are we really going to expect teachers to explain and/or hand guns to inner-city students on taxpayer's dime?  Ida know about that.  

I don't come into contact with guns on a daily basis. Most of us don't. But I also don't have to use the Pythagorean Thereom that much either and I still spent weeks on it.

And, ultimately, we aren't talking about a course where you spend several weeks. For basic gun safety, you can make it a one week lesson.

As far as the bold, yes. Although I'd have a paraprofessional or someone qualified teach the course and not expect the gym teacher to hand out shotguns during dodgeball. And while that may seem weird in cities, lots of urban schools have archery programs. With the right precautions, it's perfectly safe.

(12-09-2015, 04:30 PM)bfine32 Wrote: ..and I shared with you that there are laws that prohibit a high performance vehicle from accelerating to the capacity of its form and function. A high-performance car given its form and function is designed to break the law.

...and those laws are different from place to place. Ticky tack, man. Not to mention you can still do it at a variety of places (your own property, a racetrack, etc) and break no laws.

Again, you cannot do that with an assault rifle as its form and function break laws in just about every state.

(12-09-2015, 04:41 PM)ExtraRadiohead Wrote:  you have to pass and/or take the class to graduate it's forcing it upon kids there's no other way to slice it.

Their are a few differences between sex ed and drivers ed (which was never taught at my school.) that doesn't make it a fair comparison to gun safety imo. Just about every human will have sex or operate a motor vehicle it's nearly a fact of life in the country. Not everyone will be in a situation where they need a gun. I don't think pro gun citizens are having trouble finding different avenues to learn about guns. It's not just a tool in the USA it's a part of the culture.  The debate is everywhere we turn.

Personally I think the movement to try to put guns in the class room is another way for groups like the NRA to further embed themselves into American culture and to shut down the gun control debate. What better way to cut down the debate in the future then making it a part of kids lives before they even knew they had a choice?

Real numbers are hard to get, but it's estimated 1 in 3 Americans live in a home with a gun. That's a pretty significant chunk of folks.

And I don't understand the thinking it's teaching kids some kind of gun culture. It's teaching them basic safety of something dangerous they may come into contact with during their life. Isn't that part of why we educate kids?