Players are turning on Zac finally

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(10-11-2022, 03:45 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: The bolded makes no sense, or I am not understanding what you're meaning. EPA is expected points added, and encompasses interceptions, touchdowns, yards along with which half it is, where at on the field you are and time left in the half. Being "16 yards away from 21st" is either a misunderstanding of what you're trying to read, or an incorrect assessment. Or, amazing math somewhere. 

If you think that the conclusion has been reached by just simply looking at who is good at rushing and then correlating that to their passing effectiveness, then you aren't thinking very deeply about it. This has been studied with a wide variety of QB tiers and analyzed by season, week, drive to see how their rating/EPA per attempt fluctuates by how good the running game is performing. If what you believe to be true, was true, then QB efficiency would increase as the running game performs better. It doesn't. For instance, Brady/Manning/Rodgers/Brees never saw a notable increase in efficiency while their running games were hot. 

To your wager, we would need to lay out more precise parameters. What are you meaning by "establish the run", and how would we dictate who wins the wager? For instance, Burrow had a ~90 QB rating from week 1-4, where the running game was averaging 2.7 yards per carry. Against the Ravens, the running game averaged 5.7 yards per carry, and Burrow posted an 82 QB rating. At season end, I would want to see clear evidence of the running game performance correlating to passing game performance. From a statistical standpoint, that would mean a correlation coefficient of 0.4 or better to demonstrate that the relationship is at least moderate. 

Put in EPA but guess it came up overall but they also sit 12th in overall passing and only 16 yards better than 21st. Sure they do much analyzing if its the exact same ranking as without their #'s factored in ? 

Let's just go by the Bengals verses the Bengals instead of lumping them in with the Titans and such.

2021 Bengals ..........................2022 bengals

Mixon 4.1 yds per carry..................Mixon 3.1

QBR ......108.......................................  82
PPG........27...........................................22
INTPG....0.82........................................1.0
TD'sPG......2.........................................1.8
PYDPG.....271........................................263
sacked 51 times..................on pace for 61 sacks

Looks to me like all measurable's climb with better rushing and the QB is more experienced this year opposed to last. 

Also the Bengals only scored less than 22 points in only 4 games last year and this year are only averaging 22 points per game and have scored less than 20 three times already

Could care less about if we wager or not, but am game if you want to and you can set the parameters as long as they appear fair to both sides. 
Can be monetary, sig, or friendly I told you so or nothing at all. Tired of this argument