Players are turning on Zac finally

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(10-11-2022, 04:48 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: This isn't an informative way to look at it. You're comparing a complete dataset to an incomplete dataset. Go week by week in 2021 and see how those metrics were compiled and effected by the run game in that matchup. Something like this...



Now, it all depends on how you want to break this up. The best way to find a relationship is just to run a regression and be done with it. This data will tell you there is a weak relationship between rating and yards per carry. What is funny is that the relationship is actually negative. This means that as the yards per carry became worse, the passer rating went up. Now, the relationship is weak, so it isn't very informative and we also know correlation does not equal causation. It's just meaningless - they don't affect each other. We can also just break the data into groups. For instance...

Passer rating when Bengals averaged >= 4 yards per carry - 102.4
Passer rating when Bengals averaged < 4 yards per carry - 108.2

Or...

Passer rating when Bengals averaged >= 3.8 yards per carry - 100.57
Passer rating when Bengals averaged < 3.8 yards per carry - 112.47

Or...

Passer rating when Bengals averaged >= 3.6 yards per carry - 101.49
Passer rating when Bengals averaged < 3.6 yards per carry - 115.02

Again, we know that this isn't the case. If you do the same thing with this season, you get a result that looks similar. The lower the YPC, the higher the passer rating. They just don't matter to each other. A good run game forces a defense to play you differently, but it doesn't make your QB play any better. This is true across two-plus decades worth of data. It just is what it is. 

Sorry my mother got rushed to Emergency room and had to step away for awhile.  

Interesting stats but will dive a little deeper at lunch tomorrow when afforded more time and energy and will compare some full seasons against full seasons to get a complete dataset on both sides. You may be right.   

Yet either way I still want the run game to get going and believe it will equate to more points, wins, and open up the passing game. 

Said all offseason that running the ball was the key to our success this year per they were going to play us like we did Mahomes. You argued well against it each time and that's ok because I learned some things. 

I've offered stats to show this is happening right now and all of a sudden you disagree with #'s, and that's ok too.  There is more than one way to skin a cat and sure your #'s will come fruition by the seasons end, but presently they're not imho.