Roe Vs Wade Overturned

[*michaelsean*]

(12-08-2022, 07:48 AM)hollodero Wrote: As you stated, it would be wrong to say "states rights" is only about owning black folks. Which was just the statement I - after michaelsean dared us - took an issue with. As often, I wonder why there's even a debate when you actually make the same point.

States rights - of course - are not inherently good or evil. They're considered a good thing by many when used for harsher gun laws, aren't they? And sure, please remember the evil, but don't just go as far as to forbid highways because Hitler bought them. States rights can be used by evil and non-evil folks alike; and imho more importantly, the same goes for folks that are in favor of more state autonomy. Like michaelsean and others, reasonable people, by no means the crazy right. That get as response that their supporting states rights is racist. Which is what happens.

And which imho is how liberals drive so many folks like him away.

Thank you.  I didn't think it would be all that difficult.  I wouldn't have even seen it, but I like to go to the last page and check if anything is new on a particular topic and I saw where Nately quoted it.  The mental gymnastics people go through to not have to say it's a ridiculous statement is something to see.  The entrenchment people have taken these days to protect "their side" and make the "other side" look as bad as possible is not good.  Your call for a legitimate multi-party government in the US rings more and more true. I have no use for the Trump people, and the only place to go is the Libertarian Party which I believe received about the same percentage of votes in 2016 as they did in 2012. If they were going to make inroads, that was the year.